There's been plenty of terrible QBs who's teams won.Have you seen the team's record with Petty at QB?
Sure but we aren't talking about a team that wins because of stellar defense and an elite running game.There's been plenty of terrible QBs who's teams won.
Neither did Hawaii with Timmy Chang and a bunch of other QBs.Sure but we aren't talking about a team that wins because of stellar defense and an elite running game.
Chang's career has nothing to do with any other player. Petty will have to prove himself one way or the other.Neither did Hawaii with Timmy Chang and a bunch of other QBs.
See now you're confusing the discussion. We were specifically addressing what Petty did in college because the claim was that he made poor decisions. Obviously for that offense he wasn't making poor decisions.Neither did Hawaii with Timmy Chang and a bunch of other QBs.
I agree that if Dallas wants an upper tier QB they need to pass on it this year. I am not completely sold on any of them this draft but if Dallas goes after one this season I preffer they it not be a high draft choice to obtain one. Those need to go for the defense this draft. That's why i am not opposed to taking on a project if Dallas feels they have to have on this go around. There's no one I see as a replacement candidate.I'd prefer to draft a QB in the first or second in the next couple years. Bryce Petty just doesnt tickle my fancy as a project for Dallas to take on. Poor mechanics and decision making. Kid's got a great head on his shoulders and is mobile, but I just don't think hes anything more than a good backup
call me crazy but if mariota were somehow dropping to 27 id take my first on him or trade out of the first round completely. Obviously that wont happen.I agree that if Dallas wants an upper tier QB they need to pass on it this year. I am not completely sold on any of them this draft but if Dallas goes after one this season I preffer they it not be a high draft choice to obtain one. Those need to go for the defense this draft. That's why i am not opposed to taking on a project if Dallas feels they have to have on this go around. There's no one I see as a replacement candidate.
Wouldn't it be awesome of Leonard Williams fell to us?No way Mariotta makes his way past the Eagles or Oregon East.
Exactly. Who from this class do you see leading the Cowboys deep into the playoffs in a couple of years?I never said Mariotta would drop that far. It was a hypothetical scenario just to express the drop-off after him for QB's this year
It's amazing how much difference a decade makes. Ten to fifteen years ago a late round/undrafted QB star was pretty standard. Developed veterans like Trent Green, Jake Delhomme, Warner, Bulger, Brunell, Hasselbeck, Jeff Garcia, and (of course) Tom Brady were showing that a starting franchise QB could develop from anywhere.Exactly. Who from this class do you see leading the Cowboys deep into the playoffs in a couple of years?
Only the top guys.
But Ron Wolf develops two QBs and suddenly it's a mantra that you must draft one every year in the 4th round. That insanity is right up there with the notion of a "shutdown corner".
Doesn't exist outside a very few cases.
Ten to fifteen years ago it was easier to develop one. Most didn't play in spread offenses, were trained to read defenses and knew how to take snaps from center.It's amazing how much difference a decade makes. Ten to fifteen years ago a late round/undrafted QB star was pretty standard. Developed veterans like Trent Green, Jake Delhomme, Warner, Bulger, Brunell, Hasselbeck, Jeff Garcia, and (of course) Tom Brady were showing that a starting franchise QB could develop from anywhere.
You still need to take one, either late in the draft or as an UDFA.Exactly. Who from this class do you see leading the Cowboys deep into the playoffs in a couple of years?
Only the top guys.
But Ron Wolf develops two QBs and suddenly it's a mantra that you must draft one every year in the 4th round. That insanity is right up there with the notion of a "shutdown corner".
Doesn't exist outside a very few cases.
Here we go again. Thanks, asshole.You still need to take one, either late in the draft or as an UDFA.
The length of time to groom a QB now means you need a couple of years. Either that or you wait until you are desperate.
Most won't get an Andrew Luck. Many will get a Blaine Gabbert or Blake Bortles.
Here we go again. Thanks, asshole.