***DCC Podcast - 2025 Pre-Draft Edition***

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ravidubey said:
And Booker's arms are over 34" long.

They are different players but bottom line both are/were guards hugely productive in college and with legit first round grades.
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Why is Booker a "legit first round grade" but Golden and Egbuka aren't? I'm not following you here. All I'm saying is Booker is the type of guard you generally see go in the late first to early second round range. Which is true. Doesn't mean I don't think he will be a great player. Just that a guard going 12 is pretty rare air. And Booker isn't a once in a generation guard prospect to me. But I hope he proves me wrong.

The one quality that I can't account for is his character though. Which ultimately I think won over the Cowboys and frankly a number of other teams. Maybe that's the xfactor I'm not accounting for. Maybe his character will help make everyone around him better. I don't get to know draft picks like that, so I sort of just judge on what I can see.
 
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Cowboysrock55 said:
That's a pretty fair comp of what we are hoping Booker can be. And you have to go back to 2010 to find it. But that's a fair one. I think he went what, 17th in the draft?
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Yep, I think Steve Avila is a pretty good comparison too, although he went in the early 2nd and wasn't as good of a prospect overall.

Ultimately this was a weak draft in the first, for weeks people were saying there wasn't much separation between about 8-10 and 20-25, and so Booker probably went higher than he would in a normal draft (18-25ish range presumably). There's a reason Jeanty was the highest RB picked in nearly a decade and it's because he was one of the few elite talents at the top.

With that said, I do think Booker was a better prospect compared to other OG's that were recently taken in the top 15-20, guys like Lindstrom, Vera-Tucker and Green/Johnson.
 
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Yep, I think Steve Avila is a pretty good comparison too, although he went in the early 2nd and wasn't as good of a prospect overall.

Ultimately this was a weak draft in the first, for weeks people were saying there wasn't much separation between about 8-10 and 20-25, and so Booker probably went higher than he would in a normal draft (18-25ish range presumably). There's a reason Jeanty was the highest RB picked in nearly a decade and it's because he was one of the few elite talents at the top.

With that said, I do think Booker was a better prospect compared to other OG's that were recently taken in the top 15-20, guys like Lindstrom, Vera-Tucker and Green/Johnson.
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I'm not too ashamed to admit it, I liked Green/Johnson but they went way higher than I expected in that draft. Again, to me they were late first/early second round prospects. But that's usually the case with a good guard.
 
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Cowboysrock55 said:
I'm not too ashamed to admit it, I liked Green/Johnson but they went way higher than I expected in that draft. Again, to me they were late first/early second round prospects. But that's usually the case with a good guard.
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I loved them too, and while they're definitely cautionary tales for a pick like Booker, I think the fact that his character is so over the top excellent (guys like Jeremiah saying he was as good off the field as any OL he's ever seen) makes me very confident he'll at least be a good starter, even if he's never elite.

Looking at things objectively there's no reason a guy like Steve Avila should be a better player than Zion Johnson or Kenyon Green, but he is, and it's probably because of the intangible stuff that we can't measure. That's a risk you take with any position though.

I'd also argue that the fact that Green/Johnson went as high as they did in a comparable draft is an argument in favor of us taking Booker where we did.
 
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I think Golden was more of a 2nd round talent and his 23rd overall selection felt like he was being selected in the 1st round as a matter of supply and demand.

He's still a good player in any case, and so it really doesn't matter.

The Cowboys got someone they felt was going to improve their team both immediately and for a long time.

WR2 appears to be a more immediate need, but I would feel like a shitty GM if I passed over someone better at a position I could really use for someone not as good at a position I desperately needed this season.

Maybe they get that WR next year, or in a trade, or maybe the answer is in their offensive system and existing players?

This year they liked Booker over Golden and I can't begrudge that one bit
 
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ravidubey said:
I think Golden was more of a 2nd round talent and his 23rd overall selection felt like he was being selected in the 1st round as a matter of supply and demand.

He's still a good player in any case, and so it really doesn't matter.

The Cowboys got someone they felt was going to improve their team both immediately and for a long time.

WR2 appears to be a more immediate need, but I would feel like a shitty GM if I passed over someone better at a position I could really use for someone not as good at a position I desperately needed this season.

Maybe they get that WR next year, or in a trade, or maybe the answer is in their offensive system and existing players?

This year they liked Booker over Golden and I can't begrudge that one bit
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I disagree with Golden being a 2, I think he compares favorably to guys who have went in the 15-25 range recently like Olave, Jordan Addison, Zay Flowers and so forth.

But they had Booker rated higher and they have their reasons, but I think both are legit 1's in almost any class.

Golden probably went around where he would in a normal year although Booker went a bit higher, I think they're both guys that go somewhere in the 15-25 range in an average draft.
 
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It was interesting that my own son asked me why we have not done something with the history of this board and made the podcast into a thing.

I had no response other than to say, it is insecurity.

I get it.

This and the convention.

Tick, tock.
 
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I do believe a post-draft edition is merited. Not urgent, but it must be done.
 
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