***DCC Podcast - 2025 Pre-Draft Edition***

[Cowboysrock55]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying anyone should be negative just for the sake of being negative or that they shouldn't be honest. Just that wow, some of these shows are syrupy sweet. I almost feel like tears of joy are about to flow from them all complimenting these players to the hilt.

I'm with you on that. I think we are more critical of the Booker pick than a lot in the media. And that's not to say most of us are critical in the sense we think the guy will bust. We are critical in the sense that we don't think he is a special enough guard to say he was BPA at pick 12.

A lot of personalities like to chalk it up as, fans thought it would be WR, it wasn't, so they are mad or disappointed. But that's not really the case. Otherwise we would be made at EZ in the second round. But most fans can recognize the value he brings compared to the pick. Same with Revel. We could have taken a receiver at either of those spots too. But we got guys of really good value.

Booker comes down to value at pick 12. And I think there is a lot of weight being put into his character, which sounds off the charts, but I think more value should be placed in physical talent than charecter. And he isn't Zach Martin physically or Quenton Nelson.

 

[L.T. Fan]

I recieved a strange request via Email that had the resemblance of members on the pretend group essentially asking me if I might consent to an interview. Does that ring a bell for any of the broadcast group?

 

[mcnuttz]

I recieved a strange request via Email that had the resemblance of members on the pretend group essentially asking me if I might consent to an interview. Does that ring a bell for any of the broadcast group?

Not recently, amigo.

Seems.like we sent a few of those last draft though.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Not recently, amigo.

Seems.like we sent a few of those last draft though.

This was from a Charles and was purported to be with a Sports Group and had heard that I had been known to have differing opinions on sports matters or something along those lines. Not familiar?

 

[mcnuttz]

This was from a Charles and was purported to be with a Sports Group and had heard that I had been known to have differing opinions on sports matters or something along those lines. Not familiar?

Not familiar to me...sounds like you were being phished.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Not familiar to me...sounds like you were being phished.

Oh poo. You mean they really didn’t want to hear my sports opinions? Golly gee whiz.

 

[ravidubey]

I'm with you on that. I think we are more critical of the Booker pick than a lot in the media. And that's not to say most of us are critical in the sense we think the guy will bust. We are critical in the sense that we don't think he is a special enough guard to say he was BPA at pick 12.

A lot of personalities like to chalk it up as, fans thought it would be WR, it wasn't, so they are mad or disappointed. But that's not really the case. Otherwise we would be made at EZ in the second round. But most fans can recognize the value he brings compared to the pick. Same with Revel. We could have taken a receiver at either of those spots too. But we got guys of really good value.

Booker comes down to value at pick 12. And I think there is a lot of weight being put into his character, which sounds off the charts, but I think more value should be placed in physical talent than charecter. And he isn't Zach Martin physically or Quenton Nelson.

By not forcing a WR out of this weak WR class, we improved the quality of our draft. I have a feeling we (and Dak, and the running game) are going to greatly appreciate Booker.

I’m happy with the quality of RB we picked up and even the DT, though after this draft the whole league is going to have great RBs and several new DTs to stuff them.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

By not forcing a WR out of this weak WR class, we improved the quality of our draft. I have a feeling we (and Dak, and the running game) are going to greatly appreciate Booker.

I’m happy with the quality of RB we picked up and even the DT, though after this draft the whole league is going to have great RBs and several new DTs to stuff them.

So forcing a guard in a really weak guard class is different...

 

[Simpleton]

So forcing a guard in a really weak guard class is different...

It was pretty strong at the top, there wasn't a complete no-brainer like Quenton Nelson but I can't remember a time when three OG's went relatively early in the first (all within the first 20 or so picks).

Maybe that time like 10 years ago when two randomly went in the top 10, but aside from that you usually only see one, maybe two go, and most of the time that's in the late 20s.

 

[Rev]

So forcing a guard in a really weak guard class is different...

The guard is over 300 lbs. The wr wouldn't be.

 

[ravidubey]

So forcing a guard in a really weak guard class is different...

I think we got a really good player and a legit 1st round talent, irrespective of the other guards in this class.

Golden isn't a first round talent, though Tet might be.

With Tet gone and no reasonable trade down (assuming competence here given our recent trade down history), this was a strong selection that will help the offense hopefully for a decade.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I think we got a really good player and a legit 1st round talent, irrespective of the other guards in this class.

Golden isn't a first round talent, though Tet might be.

With Tet gone and no reasonable trade down (assuming competence here given our recent trade down history), this was a strong selection that will help the offense hopefully for a decade.

So give me a comp for a guard who you have seen go top 15 in the draft to Booker? I like the player, but it was a reach. And maybe it was just such a weak draft that a guard who you would usually take in the 20s to early second round went 12th overall. First of all it's kind of rare to see a guard go that high. So most O-lineman drafted that highly are OT's that get moved to guard because they are lacking to a skill to play OT in the NFL.

Closest in recent history I can think of is the Kenyon Green (Bust with the Eagles now) and Zion Johnson picks? Maybe I'm missing someone who was projected as a guard but played OT. Chris Lindstrom (Great athlete)? Quentin Nelson (Freak athlete)? Zach Martin (Excellent athlete), Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack?

First of all the history with safe guard picks isn't nearly as reassuring when you go through the list. But more than that it's just really rare for a guard to be drafted this highly. And when they are they are usually good athletes. So for someone to tell me Booker was the best available at 12 I expect him to sort of be a rare or special guard prospect. But I don't see that.

So you can tell me that Golden isn't a first round prospect. But I'd tell you Booker isn't a first round prospect.

 

[ravidubey]

So give me a comp for a guard who you have seen go top 15 in the draft to Booker? I like the player, but it was a reach. And maybe it was just such a weak draft that a guard who you would usually take in the 20s to early second round went 12th overall. First of all it's kind of rare to see a guard go that high. So most O-lineman drafted that highly are OT's that get moved to guard because they are lacking to a skill to play OT in the NFL.

Closest in recent history I can think of is the Kenyon Green (Bust with the Eagles now) and Zion Johnson picks? Maybe I'm missing someone who was projected as a guard but played OT. Chris Lindstrom (Great athlete)? Quentin Nelson (Freak athlete)? Zach Martin (Excellent athlete), Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack?

First of all the history with safe guard picks isn't nearly as reassuring when you go through the list. But more than that it's just really rare for a guard to be drafted this highly. And when they are they are usually good athletes. So for someone to tell me Booker was the best available at 12 I expect him to sort of be a rare or special guard prospect. But I don't see that.

So you can tell me that Golden isn't a first round prospect. But I'd tell you Booker isn't a first round prospect.

Zack Martin

NFL.com's draft score for Martin was 6.40 and 6.38 for Booker

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Zack Martin

Zack Martin was a way more athletic player who had to play guard because his arms were like 32 inches long.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Golden isn't a first round talent, though Tet might be.

Golden isn't a first round talent? Tet "might" be?

 

[Simpleton]

So give me a comp for a guard who you have seen go top 15 in the draft to Booker? I like the player, but it was a reach. And maybe it was just such a weak draft that a guard who you would usually take in the 20s to early second round went 12th overall. First of all it's kind of rare to see a guard go that high. So most O-lineman drafted that highly are OT's that get moved to guard because they are lacking to a skill to play OT in the NFL.

Closest in recent history I can think of is the Kenyon Green (Bust with the Eagles now) and Zion Johnson picks? Maybe I'm missing someone who was projected as a guard but played OT. Chris Lindstrom (Great athlete)? Quentin Nelson (Freak athlete)? Zach Martin (Excellent athlete), Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack?

First of all the history with safe guard picks isn't nearly as reassuring when you go through the list. But more than that it's just really rare for a guard to be drafted this highly. And when they are they are usually good athletes. So for someone to tell me Booker was the best available at 12 I expect him to sort of be a rare or special guard prospect. But I don't see that.

So you can tell me that Golden isn't a first round prospect. But I'd tell you Booker isn't a first round prospect.

Mike Iupati.

 

[ravidubey]

Zack Martin was a way more athletic player who had to play guard because his arms were like 32 inches long.

And Booker's arms are over 34" long.

They are different players but bottom line both are/were guards hugely productive in college and with legit first round grades.

 

[ravidubey]

Mike Iupati.

David DeCastro, though he slipped in the first round into the 20's

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Mike Iupati.

That's a pretty fair comp of what we are hoping Booker can be. And you have to go back to 2010 to find it. But that's a fair one. I think he went what, 17th in the draft?

 

[Cowboysrock55]

David DeCastro, though he slipped in the first round into the 20's

Yeah, he went 24th, which is probably where Booker should have gone.