Cowboys sign Prescott to a 4 year contract

[Genghis Khan]

Also I think it's important to note that Dak clearly has been betting on himself and I don't think he was in a hurry to sign a particularly cheap deal even two years ago. We make a lot of assumptions that Dak would have jumped on cheaper deals in the past but his actions all along have not been consistent with that.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Also I think it's important to note that Dak clearly has been betting on himself and I don't think he was in a hurry to sign a particularly cheap deal even two years ago. We make a lot of assumptions that Dak would have jumped on cheaper deals in the past but his actions all along have not been consistent with that.

Could be but it could also be that we have been low balling him all along. Fact is as fans we don't really know. I think Dak's agent is a pain in the ass though.

 

[bbgun]

I wonder if the Jets would settle for Dak if they can't get Watson. We could roll with Darnold for one year and get a number of picks as well (although not the #2 pick this year). I think NY would rather opt for a young QB than pay Dak elite money.

 

[mcnuttz]

To play devil's advocate, that's the approach the eagles took with Wentz and it's bitten them in the ass.

You can say that we were certain about Dak two years ago, but the eagles thought they were certain about Wentz 2 years ago also.

There's definitely risk when you re-up a guy for huge money like that.

I'd far rather be in our situation right now, which let's be honest is very likely to get done just not for the money we'd like, than be in a position like the eagles getting burned for an insane cap hit from giving huge money to a guy who ultimately failed.

My big issue is last year, when his contract actually ran out and we were forced to tag him. It should have been done a year ago and still probably would have saved 5 or so million a year.

This is where not having a true GM bites the team in the ass.

 

[Simpleton]

The agent of a top 5 QB in the league has publicly said their client will only accept a trade to one of 4 teams, Dallas included. That client's team is now apparently "not hanging up" when teams call inquiring about a trade.

If Dak won't budge off 4 years averaging north of 40/year you do everything in your power to move him for value then make an offer Seattle can't refuse.

These dumbledores are perilously close to losing Dak for nothing and somehow a future HoF QB who has at least 4-6 years left of high level play is all but demanding a trade to one of 4 teams with a no trade clause in place.

I don't care what it takes, you make that happen if you're left with no other options.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I wonder if the Jets would settle for Dak if they can't get Watson. We could roll with Darnold for one year and get a number of picks as well (although not the #2 pick this year). I think NY would rather opt for a young QB than pay Dak elite money.

Why the fuck would we want to roll with Darnold for 1 year without even getting the number 2 pick in return? This is some dumb shit right here. Roll with a QB bust for the sake of what exactly? Why not roll with Dak for a year if you're not even getting a number 1 pick in return?

 

[bbgun]

Why the fuck would we want to roll with Darnold for 1 year without even getting the number 2 pick in return?

They'd probably offer Seattle's #1, not their own. Darnold is a decent guy to roll with until you find his successor, which doesn't have to happen in this draft.

This is some dumb shit right here. Roll with a QB bust for the sake of what exactly?

If the money impasse with Dak is too great, then Darnold plus Seattle #1s in the next two drafts isn't bad compensation.

Why not roll with Dak for a year if you're not even getting a number 1 pick in return?

We are, but not the Jets' picks. Watson is deserving of the #2 pick, not Dak.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

They'd probably offer Seattle's #1, not their own. Darnold is a decent guy to roll with until you find his successor, which doesn't have to happen in this draft.



If the money impasse with Dak is too great, then Darnold plus Seattle #1s in the next two drafts isn't bad compensation.



We are, but not the Jets' picks. Watson is deserving of the #2 pick, not Dak.

So basically you'd rather suck with no plan in sight than to pay Dak? Sorry this plan is awful.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Watson is deserving of the #2 pick, not Dak.

 

[bbgun]

So basically you'd rather suck with no plan in sight than to pay Dak? Sorry this plan is awful.

"Pay him anything he wants because we're not smart enough to find his replacement" is an even worse plan.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

"Pay him anything he wants because we're not smart enough to find his replacement" is an even worse plan.

You have to have a plan to replace him and a couple of draft picks in the 20s isn't going to help you accomplish that at all.

Pay him anything, no? But giving him away with a plan of Sam Darnold is about as stupid as you can get. You're just going backwards.

Yeah give away a franchise QB for what Jamal Adam's was traded for. Fucking brilliant strategy. I swear some people just want to hate Dak.

 

[Simpleton]

It all comes down to what Dak's demands are, if it's 4 years and 43/year or nothing then I'd take a mid-1 and a 2 this year, and a 1 next year.

I'd then use that to make a move for Russell Wilson or to move up in the draft, but sure as shit not to trade for Sam Darnold. Maybe if we could get him for like a 4.

 

[jsmith6919]

It all comes down to what Dak's demands are, if it's 4 years and 43/year or nothing then I'd take a mid-1 and a 2 this year, and a 1 next year.

I'd then use that to make a move for Russell Wilson or to move up in the draft, but sure as shit not to trade for Sam Darnold. Maybe if we could get him for like a 4.

Wouldn't we have to get Dak under contract this year to retain rights or do I have that wrong? Can we franchise tag him again or would he be a free agent after playing out this season on the FT?

 

[ravidubey]

Could be but it could also be that we have been low balling him all along. Fact is as fans we don't really know. I think Dak's agent is a pain in the ass though.

The Joneses idiotically decided to wait on the CBA before seriously negotiating with Dak. No one would have predicted this degree of ass-fuckery:
2021: ?
2020: 45m 39m
2019: 35m
2018: 33m, 30m

Watson’s 39m deal was a huge precedent because Watson is similar to Dak, not a Superbowl winner but clearly a stud coming off his rookie deal, and now it’s a year later.

Even if they ignore Mahomes’ weird deal, Dak’s side has no reason to not ask for at least 2 mil more than Watson’s deal, a floor of 41m— if they are being nice.

An FA contract signed next year would be worth another at least 2 million more than even that, and as a result of a potential bidding war between the Bears and The Football Team even higher.

Say that bidding war would produce a 3 years 49m per year deal. When averaged with his 1 year 2021 tender of 37m it’s 4 years 184m averaging 46 per year.

So why not demand 4 years 45 million per year right now? This way he can stay in Dallas and keep selling Sleep Number mattresses nationwide.

What can the Cowboys do about it besides draft a QB top ten or even worse trade for Sam Darnold (who kicked their asses by the way)?

 

[ravidubey]

Wouldn't we have to get Dak under contract this year to retain rights or do I have that wrong? Can we franchise tag him again or would he be a free agent after playing out this season on the FT?

We would have to commit 54 million on a 1 year deal, so technically it’s possible. Not going to happen.

 

[NoDak]

Sam Darnold (who kicked their asses by the way)?

 

[Texas Ace]

 

[ravidubey]

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Hilarious, I just posted this in another chat the other night.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

It all comes down to what Dak's demands are, if it's 4 years and 43/year or nothing then I'd take a mid-1 and a 2 this year, and a 1 next year.

I'd then use that to make a move for Russell Wilson or to move up in the draft, but sure as shit not to trade for Sam Darnold. Maybe if we could get him for like a 4.

At least that is a plan. I don't like the plan but Wilson is a stud QB.

I'm not sure where my line for Dak would be but you have to draw it somewhere so I get that. I still can't believe the Cowboys aren't able to work out some sort of a 7 year 300 mil contract with Dak that looks massive but you can get out of it after 3 years or so. And the first couple years the cap number is in the 20-30 mil range. Makes sense for everyone. But maybe Dak doesn't know if he wants to spend his whole career in Dallas.

 

[ravidubey]

But maybe Dak doesn't know if he wants to spend his whole career in Dallas.

I also wouldn't know.

Marketing wise, it's an insanely good opportunity.

But you will always be QB of a patchwork Frankenstein monster of a team.

Your owner/gm hicks will be in perpetual overreaction mode, over-fixing/wildcatting what failed last year and chasing shiny toys but never putting together a team based on a solid, talented foundation and blueprint based on collaboration between real coaching and GM football people.

In addition, your owner will undermine your coach at every opportunity reducing the effectiveness of and accelerating the burnout of the better coaches you work for.