Cowboys Free Agency Thread

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Is he willing to sign for 99 cents?

5-year contract you got a deal

 

[DontCryWolfe]

Read an article about Dontari Poe. Didn’t know he was still available. Considering the contracts we have doled out so far, I think he would be a good fit. Can’t be asking for too much.

 

[Genghis Khan]

First of all, Dorsett is pretty god damn mediocre. At that point I'd rather save the money and grab a guy in the draft.

Second, I'm usually on board with fiscal sanity but there have been some really reasonable and affordable contracts getting handed out. There's fiscal sanity and then there's asleep at the wheel.

We have plenty of money. We can create a bunch more if need be. There's no reason we couldn't be sitting here with Cobb, Griffin, Trufant, Ebron, Joseph, McCoy, Cooper, and Clinton dix. And be more than fine financially.

Instead, we've weakened our strength (offense, lost two major weapons) and weakened our weaknesses (lost our best cover corner and best pass rusher), plus we haven't remotely addressed our most glaring weakness (run defense).

It's horseshit and I'm tired of it.

ETA: McCoy and Cooper.

 

[p1_]

ETA: McCoy and Cooper.

Huh?

 

[Genghis Khan]

Huh?

"Edited to add" McCoy and Cooper to the list I made of players we could afford, they are included now but I originally forgot to include them because by some miracle we actually signed them.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Instead, we've weakened our strength (offense, lost two major weapons) and weakened our weaknesses (lost our best cover corner and best pass rusher), plus we haven't remotely addressed our most glaring weakness (run defense).

I'm blanking who was the second major weapon on offense. Cobb and ....

 

[Genghis Khan]

I'm blanking who was the second major weapon on offense. Cobb and ....

Witten had 63 catches last year. Like him or not that's a major weapon that hasn't been replaced. Between Witten and Cobb they've lost 118 receptions. That's a huge amount to replace especially when the next men up are dalton schultz and cedric wilson.

 

[boozeman]

Danny Shelton ($4 million a year) and Andrew Billings ($3.5 million one year) as well.

Head scratchers.

Not any better than Antwaun Woods who is paid half that. [/Goof Son]

 

[jsmith6919]

Witten had 63 catches last year. Like him or not that's a major weapon that hasn't been replaced. Between Witten and Cobb they've lost 118 receptions. That's a huge amount to replace especially when the next men up are dalton schultz and cedric wilson.

Jarwin replaces Witten not Schultz

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Witten had 63 catches last year. Like him or not that's a major weapon that hasn't been replaced. Between Witten and Cobb they've lost 118 receptions. That's a huge amount to replace especially when the next men up are dalton schultz and cedric wilson.

Yeah I don't think I'd refer to Witten as a weapon. I mean he is a NFL player who started for us last year. But definitely not what I would call a weapon.

Weapon implies someone who threatens a defense. I don't think Witten threatened anybody.

 

[p1_]

Witten had 63 catches last year. Like him or not that's a major weapon that hasn't been replaced. Between Witten and Cobb they've lost 118 receptions. That's a huge amount to replace especially when the next men up are dalton schultz and cedric wilson.

Jarwin is the replacement for Witten, and I think he's more than capable of 63 catches. Not to mention a significantly higher YPC than Witt.

 

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[Genghis Khan]

Jarwin replaces Witten not Schultz

We already had Jarwin and he already got a lot of snaps.

Jarwin had 31 catches last year. He'll probably have some number more this season, but unless you think jarwin catches 90+ balls next year, yes Schultz or *somebody* has to pick up that slack.

It'll be ok though. Our third WR will pick up the...oh, wait.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Jarwin is the replacement for Witten, and I think he's more than capable of 63 catches. Not to mention a significantly higher YPC than Witt.

Again, Jarwin was here last year.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Yeah I don't think I'd refer to Witten as a weapon. I mean he is a NFL player who started for us last year. But definitely not what I would call a weapon.

Weapon implies someone who threatens a defense. I don't think Witten threatened anybody.

You're kidding yourself if you think 60+ catches aren't important to replace.

Again, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU THINK OF WITTEN, that production has to be replaced. You're focusing on witten's quality, but that is very far away from the point.

 

[p1_]

Again, Jarwin was here last year.

and he was effectively cock blocked by an old man who had no business being on the field. And i feel confident we can replace Cobb's numbers.

 

[Genghis Khan]

and he was effectively cock blocked by an old man who had no business being on the field

You're missing the point.

Do you think he's getting an all pro number of catches like 90 or more? Because that's what it would take for JARWIN to replace witten's numbers.

You guys are being really obtuse here.

 

[p1_]

You're missing the point.

Do you think he's getting an all pro number of catches like 90 or more? Because that's what it would take for JARWIN to replace witten's numbers.

You guys are being really obtuse here.

why do you say he needs 90 catches? 63 is not 90..
I see what youre saying now, you mean 90 receptions from the position. I would think schultz should be good for 1-2 recepts per game. That gets you 17-34 ish. And those 2 arent the only ones on the roster

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Again, Jarwin was here last year.

It's not about playing in games. It's your role in the offense. Jarwin had a grand total of 41 targets last year. That's a pretty low number because he was down the list on the progression on most plays. Witten on the other hand had 83 targets. He had a much higher number of balls thrown his direction because of his role on offense.

Meanwhile Jarwin caught a higher percentage of those balls and produced 11.8 yards per catch. Witten meanwhile averaged 8.4 yards per catch while catching a lower percentage of balls thrown his way.

I don't think its hard to imagine Jarwin can outproduce what Witten did by getting those targets.

I get the concept that you need to replace Jarwins role as the number 2 TE. But with better play from the starter you don't need the number 2 guy to be as good. Hopefully that can be Schultz.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

You're kidding yourself if you think 60+ catches aren't important to replace.

Again, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU THINK OF WITTEN, that production has to be replaced. You're focusing on witten's quality, but that is very far away from the point.

You don't ever need to replace catches. You need to replace yards. When you average 8 yards a catch it's not that difficult to replace. You can replace those yards with far fewer catches because Witten did so little catching those passes.