2025 Season | Week 4 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Green Bay Packers at Dallas Cowboys | 9/28/2025

[Tony D]

The OL has held up (or been schemed around in the case of the OT's) against some very good pass rushing groups.

Burns/Carter/Thibodeaux/Lawrence with the Giants and now Parsons/Gary/Wyatt with the Packers, although Wyatt went out around halftime. You aren't going to see many pass rush groups better than that.

If only our God forsaken defense could somehow manage to hold somebody to under 30 points.

It's funny. I thought they played better last night and then look up and we gave up 40.

We were alright in 1st and 2nd down. 3rd down killed us and 4th in OT. After the 1st quarter not many big plays other than those screens over and over.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I think I heard Gary's name mentioned once all night.

Can't complain about the depth on the OL and the coaching.

Our Oline coach deserves a lot of credit as well as the OC. I hope we keep those guys no matter what happens this year.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

It's funny. I thought they played better last night and then look up and we gave up 40.

We were alright in 1st and 2nd down. 3rd down killed us and 4th in OT. After the 1st quarter not many big plays other than those screens over and over.

Stupid penalties really screwed us. And poor tackling. It felt better because guys weren't catching a bunch of deep balls on us.

Coverages were tighter by the corners even if they got beat.

 

[UncleMilti]

I'd send him packing today.

He's not a good coach, at all. There's no reason to keep him around and expect him to improve things with that unit.

Just let him go already.

I agree. The defense is just too scattered at this point. You’ve had a whole offseason and 4 games to get something tracking the right direction and it’s not happening.
What we see on defense in the secondary has nothing to do with Micah….i don’t believe he’d make a difference if he WAS here.
At least the coaches were smart last night. They must’ve went back and looked at how all the other teams always negated Micah, because he was mostly quiet.

 

[ravidubey]

Do you all think that was a TD saving tackle as Collinsworth said? There were still a couple guys to get through.

He might have scored, but it wasn't a sure thing as there were multiple defenders nearby.

That statement by Collingsworth was all hype

 

[ravidubey]

That's nonsense to me. If a RB is tackled for no gain is that a TFL? A sack is a tackle behind the line of scrimmage in my book.

I hear you, there's also a judgment call in there based on whether he was ever trying to pass. A designed run would have been a run for no gain.

 

[kidd]

I woke up this morning and I still hate that tie.

If you're going to change the OT rules so that both teams get a possession no matter what, then why on earth would you shorten the OT period by 5 minutes?!

It's so fucking stupid. Just like with these stupid new kickoff rules, the NFL makes decisions sometimes that can make you easily forget that this is a multi billion dollar organization.

I still think there should be a 2nd OT where the first team to score wins.

 

[UncleMilti]

Amen again. Defense is still half of the game, as much as the NFL wants it to be all offense. If you don't want them to score first, stop them.

This is another annoying turn the NFL has made and it’s really gotten worse under that faggot dick sucker Goodell. It’s ALL about offense. From not being able to touch a WR, to tons of questionable PI calls to can’t touch the QB to now basically playing on a 65 yard field there’s nowhere in the game for true defensive play.
Guys in their 50’s and 60’s remember the real NFL and the scores were rarely out of the 20’s and low 30’s. High 30’s and 40 point games were an anomaly. Not today though.
I hate it.

 

[Genghis Khan]

A QB tackle for no gain is objectively a sack by NFL rules.

This is simply false.

By NFL rules, a sack is awarded if the QB is attempting to pass and is tackled behind the line of scrimmage.

If the QB is attempting to run and is making no apparent intent to pass, it is a tackle but not a sack even if the tackle occurs behind the line of scrimmage.

To me, Dak was clearly intending to run at that point and it should have been considered a tackle, not a sack.

Per Grok:

"if the QB is scrambling (initially looking to pass) but then tucks the ball and runs like a ball carrier without looking at receivers, and is tackled at the line of scrimmage for no gain, this would typically not be considered a sack. It would instead be scored as a rushing attempt for zero yards, because the apparent intent to pass is no longer present once the ball is tucked away."

 

[Genghis Khan]

Here's the play in question by the way. No way he isn't intending to run here. Absurd that they'd rule this a sack.

 

[Texas Ace]

10-14 is unacceptable.

 

[kidd]

I wouldn't even mind if they just went back to sudden death, first score wins. To me there's nothing wrong with that. If you don't like the "unfairness" of it, make a bigger effort to win in regulation and not go to OT at all.

I would like to know what’s “unfair”?

Is your defense not a part of OT? If you don’t want to lose because you didn’t call heads, then field a defense!

 

[Texas Ace]

I still think there should be a 2nd OT where the first team to score wins.

That could work too.

If the score remains tied AFTER both teams have had a possession, then it becomes sudden death.

 

[UncleMilti]

It's funny. I thought they played better last night and then look up and we gave up 40.

We were alright in 1st and 2nd down. 3rd down killed us and 4th in OT. After the 1st quarter not many big plays other than those screens over and over.

Either the CBs have just completely shit the bed in the offseason losing the ability to track the ball in the air, or we just have had terrible luck on these bombs away plays. The LBers aren’t helping either. Has to be some of the worst tackling, slowest group I’ve ever seen.

 

[Cujo]

I say adopt the college rules but you have to go for 2 immediately. Get the shit over with.

 

[Texas Ace]

I say adopt the college rules but you have to go for 2 immediately. Get the shit over with.

I hate the college rules of giving the teams the ball at the 25 yard line.

The rules and format should remain identical even going into the OT periods.

 

[bbgun]

Dak lookin' like Willem Dafoe at the end of Platoon

 

[Irving Cowboy]

If you don't like the idea of teams playing 100 minute game? Then go back to sudden death.

To be fair, that's that it becomes if neither team scores on their first possession of OT.

 

[kidd]

That could work too.

If the score remains tied AFTER both teams have had a possession, then it becomes sudden death.

Come to think of it, I like this better.

After GB scored, Dallas should have gotten the ball back and then the next score wins.

 

[Rev]

I say play better defense or offense in regulation.