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Bipo

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The fact that they're intertwining gambling into this should honestly be illegal.

I'm sure they'll loop fantasy and gambling in together to really separate idiots from their money.
The gambling shit is so fucking sickening at ESPN. Watching Get Up in the morning while working and having hear Greeny give his picks who he would bet on is ridiculous.

Then they blame fuckin players for gambling when it is promoted like a motherfucker now.
 

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Yeah, not to get all pol in here, but gambling is one of those things where it sounds great to let people make their own decisions, but when you see how many people with addictive personalities lose so much to it... I dunno.
 

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Yeah, not to get all pol in here, but gambling is one of those things where it sounds great to let people make their own decisions, but when you see how many people with addictive personalities lose so much to it... I dunno.
I don't think gambling in and of itself should be illegal, but it's a bit ridiculous to let media networks operate as blowhorns for gambling where it's intertwined with the broadcasts and likely (in the future) pushed on to viewers directly.

I bet in the not too distant future the people calling games will be acting almost like those old call-in lines like 30 years ago where you could call in for "tips" on how/where to wager.

It might not be on the traditional telecast, but I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever if in the next few years there is an alternate ESPN telecast of MNF that revolves around gambling, where the "announcers" would basically be egging on people to bet on different things.
 

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It’s already getting to the point where the decision to go for 2 isn’t determined by “the chart” but rather the line.
 

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I don't think gambling in and of itself should be illegal, but it's a bit ridiculous to let media networks operate as blowhorns for gambling where it's intertwined with the broadcasts and likely (in the future) pushed on to viewers directly.

I bet in the not too distant future the people calling games will be acting almost like those old call-in lines like 30 years ago where you could call in for "tips" on how/where to wager.

It might not be on the traditional telecast, but I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever if in the next few years there is an alternate ESPN telecast of MNF that revolves around gambling, where the "announcers" would basically be egging on people to bet on different things.
Right, they were saying a few years ago -- not sure if they actually did it -- that you'd be able to literally bet on each play of a game.

And there's no doubt what you described will happen, and probably soon. There are already whole channels I see on platforms devoted to nothing but sports gambling.

I do remember on golf tournaments a year or two ago they'd show live lines on who would win, etc. I notice they have cut that back a lot so maybe the demand wasn't there... hopefully.
 

Bipo

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Gambling should absolutely be legal. Advertising gambling? Absolutely not.
 

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I said this guy was kinda shit for like two years, I honestly think that if it wasn't for the blowback of not taking a guy who had been hyped as much as he had that he would've gone 2nd or even 3rd last year.

Nobody is getting fired for taking a guy everybody thinks is "generational" even if he busts, but if you pass him up and he is what he's touted to be you're out immediately.

I'm fairly certain I would've taken both Maye and Daniels over him.
 

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I said this guy was kinda shit for like two years, I honestly think that if it wasn't for the blowback of not taking a guy who had been hyped as much as he had that he would've gone 2nd or even 3rd last year.

Nobody is getting fired for taking a guy everybody thinks is "generational" even if he busts, but if you pass him up and he is what he's touted to be you're out immediately.

I'm fairly certain I would've taken both Maye and Daniels over him.
There was not a damn thing about his final year in school that suggested he was ”it”.

There were so many red flags present that I wonder how the fuck anyone would miss them.

And yes, the nail polish was first.
 

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There was not a damn thing about his final year in school that suggested he was ”it”.

There were so many red flags present that I wonder how the fuck anyone would miss them.

And yes, the nail polish was first.
Yea he wasn't even that great either year at USC, put up big stats against average or worse teams and consistently shit the bed against top teams.

I think he played like shit then cried after losing to Utah a 2nd time, which meant losing out on a chance at the playoff?
 

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Yea he wasn't even that great either year at USC, put up big stats against average or worse teams and consistently shit the bed against top teams.

I think he played like shit then cried after losing to Utah a 2nd time, which meant losing out on a chance at the playoff?
You saw it. I saw it.

Either Ryan Poles missed it or more than likely, chose to overlook it.

Bears fans have never had a decent QB, but this kid is a trainwreck.
 

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You saw it. I saw it.

Either Ryan Poles missed it or more than likely, chose to overlook it.

Bears fans have never had a decent QB, but this kid is a trainwreck.
Like I said, I think there are certain prospects that GM's are basically forced to take due to the public zeitgeist around the player. There's a self preservation aspect where they know they won't be blamed if that player busts, even if they might not be fully sold, but they know if they put their balls on the table and pass, they're out immediately if that guy they passed up on actually is what they're being billed as.

Williams is the perfect example of that, if this was 50 years ago where the general public didn't know dick about the draft I bet he would've gone at least 2nd after Daniels or Maye, if not 3rd.

The cottage industry as Parcells liked to call it has taken on a life of its own though in certain situations.
 

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You know how GMs are, though. They love the physical talent, and Williams is immensely talented.

His problem is his enormous ego and he and his dad always seeking max pay over development. Riley is an asskisser who wasn't going to coach him hard, he was going to let him do whatever he wanted because talent like that is enough at the college level. He was never forced to learn good fundamentals.

I bet there are more cases like him in the NIL era. These talented athletes will get even less coaching because if anyone is hard on them, they'll just leave.

Also, hate to say it but he's not a bust yet. He could still put it together if he wants to. But he probably can't admit he has serious flaws he needs to correct.
 
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