2025 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

[Bipo]

Williams on pace for

270

1,438

5.3

15

2-3 year extension worthy.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I have zero complaints as far as he is concerned. Just wish we had someone who could spell him for about 7 carries a game that wouldn't be a huge drop-off. Mafah maybe?

You started to see glimpses of the explosion from Blue in this last game. I think he is fine as a number 2. Way too much pearl clutching by the coaches over letting a rookie RB get 5-7 carries a game.

 

[Genghis Khan]

 

[boozeman]

absent an injury or a Tolbert trade, he won't be getting on the field much. well done, Jerry.

If he is an upgrade to Tolbert, let him play. The constant shitty effort and even penalties are intolerable.

 

[Genghis Khan]

If he is an upgrade to Tolbert, let him play. The constant shitty effort and even penalties are intolerable.

True, but shouldn't Flournoy be the next man up? He's actually demonstrated the ability to make plays pretty consistently.

This reeks of them trying to force Mingo into the lineup based on pedigree and the fact that they traded for him, rather than merit.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

True, but shouldn't Flournoy be the next man up? He's actually demonstrated the ability to make plays pretty consistently.

This reeks of them trying to force Mingo into the lineup based on pedigree and the fact that they traded for him, rather than merit.

Flournoy should absolutely be the next man up. The guy can run routes and get open. I don't see how Mingo really adds anything on the field. He can basically do 2 things, slants and go balls. And with Pickens and Lamb he doesn't really fit. Flournoy is a way more nuanced route runner who actually knows how to get open.

Just my two cents.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I mean, the team is Jerry's play toy. And if he wants to see the guy he traded for, that's what will happen. Even if it doesn't make sense.

 

[Bipo]

 

[boozeman]

 

[Chocolate Lab]

 

[Bipo]

Not sure how I'd feel. Don't think I want to part with a first for a 28 year old.

 

[Cujo]

He's an amazing player but how much would we have to give up to get him?

 

[Simpleton]

I'd love trading for Crosby, assuming we wouldn't have to give up more than a 1, even better if we can get away with something like a 2026 2nd and 2027 3rd, but I'd be more than happy to send them one of the GB 1's.

He's 2 years older than Parsons but on a cheaper contract and is nearly as explosive of a pass rusher while being properly sized to set the edge. Overall I don't think there's much difference between the two in terms of caliber of player, even though Parsons is the more explosive pass rusher.

Trading for Crosby would be the perfect move for the next 3-4 years given where I think this team should be at. Let's hope Jerry's demented relationship with the Davis family actually benefits the team for once.

 

[GShock]

I would rather see what the Bills, Broncos, and Pats are willing to give up for Pickens.

Maxx Crosby ain't fixing DT, LB, and Safety. Get that 2027 draft capital and we'll be that much closer to Jerry being dead.

 

[Cujo]

I would rather see what the Bills, Broncos, and Pats are willing to give up for Pickens.

Maxx Crosby ain't fixing DT, LB, and Safety. Get that 2027 draft capital and we'll be that much closer to Jerry being dead.

Yeah, I agree. I would rather continue acquiring assets. Crosby doesn't put us over the top, IMO.

 

[Bipo]

Most likely scenario.....We trade both GB firsts for Crosby.

 

[Simpleton]

It's so hard to pin down what the strategy should be for the next few years, because right now Dak looks like an MVP candidate (as he did in 2023), our offense is pretty much entirely young and under contract, and the Lamb/Pickens duo looks like it could be truly special.

So why not pour resources into the defense and actually go for it over the next 2-4 years?

I don't think Crosby would be enough to put us over the top for this season, but how about after next offseason which would presumably be entirely focused on defense? Or the 2027 offseason, when we'd have presumably used all of the extra draft capital to improve the defense?

Crosby+3 1st rounders spent on the defense in the next two years, plus whatever else, could definitely be enough in 2027 or 2028 with an offense that will be completely intact for the next few years.

On the other hand, we all saw last season, we've all seen Dak in the playoffs, so I totally get wanting to focus on the future and setting things up for 2028 - 2035 or whatever.

But who's to say our best, most realistic shot isn't these next 3-4 years with the offense being completely in shape, while throwing everything at the defense?

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Yeah, I agree. I would rather continue acquiring assets. Crosby doesn't put us over the top, IMO.

I have to agree. I'm not saying I wouldn't trade for someone. But it would be more on the level of third/fourth round type picks. I'm not giving up first round assets for a Crosby. Nothing against the player, would love him here but I personally wouldn't do it. He isn't going to stop this defense from being shredded with these shitty coverages. The only reason I make a midseason move for a player is if I think the player has a chance to push us over the top.

I don't trust Eberflus to adjust on defense. And for that reason I think it would be silly to pay a premium to get a guy right now (You're paying extra for the half season you have with him). If the idea is Crosby is valuable over the next few years than wait until after the season and trade for someone. You're not getting a discount from the Raiders right now.

I say all of this knowing full and well there is a good chance Jerry ships away a first for Crosby and I'll just have to stomach it. And I despise wasting what an awesome offense we have this year. But Crosby isn't going to fix these shit zone coverages where guys are running wide open from the snap. The only way I have faith in fixing that is with a new defensive coordinator.

 

[Simpleton]

Dak - 2028
Lamb - 2028
Pickens - TBD but you have to assume he'll be re-signed through 2029 or something
Turpin - 2027
Williams - TBD but RB's are fungible, plus he'll probably be re-signed
Ferguson - 2029
Guyton - rookie deal through 2028 if desired
Tyler Smith - 2029
Beebe - rookie deal through 2027
Booker - rookie deal through 2029 if desired
Thomas - rookie deal through 2027
Steele - 2028 (probably will be cut but I figured I'd add him)

This is why I'd trade for Crosby for a reasonable price, i.e. a single 1.

We have an elite offense with everybody under contract through 2027 except for Pickens and Williams. You have to assume Pickens will be re-signed and RB is whatever, Williams will probably be back but you can work around it if not with the weapons we have in the passing game.

Outside of Dak that entire list will be under contract and in their prime for the next 3-4 years, so why not direct your assets to actually go for it?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Let's hope Jerry's demented relationship with the Davis family actually benefits the team for once.