2025 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

[Simpleton]

The way I look at it is, we have 3 picks in the first 2 rounds in each of the next two drafts. That means we can infuse the defense with a lot of talent relatively cheaply and by the time those guys need to be paid Pickens will be off the books.

And we're not going to spend on outside free agents anyway so it's not like paying Pickens will stop us from signing immediate veteran help on defense. We weren't going to anyway.

Exactly, which is why I'm not worried about how to fix the defense relative to the Pickens decision.

Two 1's the next two years is plenty of ammo, it's just a matter on hitting on 2-3 of them.

The offense is almost entirely built with guys under contract long-term if they extend Pickens. The only spots that might need to be addressed in the next two years are RB (easy to find) and OT.

Aside from that the OL is squared away with at least 4 starters (could be all 5) all under contract, TE, WR if Pickens resigns, and QB (in the short term).

I'd still look hard at QB if an opportunity in the draft presents itself but the offense is mostly set for the next 2-3 years.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

And we're not going to spend on outside free agents anyway so it's not like paying Pickens will stop us from signing immediate veteran help on defense. We weren't going to anyway.

Probably true.

I guess I just hate the big picture idea of trading Micah partially to save money and then spending a lot of that on Pickens. No, he won't make as much as Micah but he'll make a lot. So we will have almost traded an excellent defensive player for another offensive player when the offense was already so far ahead of the defense. I'm always complaining about the imbalance of resources spent on offense vs defense, and this would be another instance.

And I have doubts about how much another WR, even a very good one, helps the offense. There's still only one ball to go around, etc.

 

[Simpleton]

Probably true.

I guess I just hate the big picture idea of trading Micah partially to save money and then spending a lot of that on Pickens. No, he won't make as much as Micah but he'll make a lot. So we will have almost traded an excellent defensive player for another offensive player when the offense was already so far ahead of the defense. I'm always complaining about the imbalance of resources spent on offense vs defense, and this would be another instance.

And I have doubts about how much another WR, even a very good one, helps the offense. There's still only one ball to go around, etc.

This is true although I think if you add Parsons (and salary) and subtract Clark and the two 1's this is still a very flawed defense with a ticking clock on how long Parsons will be elite given that he's undersized.

The two 1's on top, while having WR (and the majority of the offense) completely squared away, at least provides the opportunity of building a more stout, balanced defense.

 

[Rev]

Exactly, which is why I'm not worried about how to fix the defense relative to the Pickens decision.

Two 1's the next two years is plenty of ammo, it's just a matter on hitting on 2-3 of them.

The offense is almost entirely built with guys under contract long-term if they extend Pickens. The only spots that might need to be addressed in the next two years are RB (easy to find) and OT.

Aside from that the OL is squared away with at least 4 starters (could be all 5) all under contract, TE, WR if Pickens resigns, and QB (in the short term).

I'd still look hard at QB if an opportunity in the draft presents itself but the offense is mostly set for the next 2-3 years.

Well Williams is 1 year deal so RB will need to.be addressed. Im not sure its an easy fix for us.

 

[Simpleton]

Well Williams is 1 year deal so RB will need to.be addressed. Im not sure its an easy fix for us.

In the grand scheme it's an easy fix, not something that requires heavy resources. I don't think Williams will get a big deal and even if he leaves you could sign someone like Breece Hall relatively cheap and throw in a mid round draft pick.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

This is true although I think if you add Parsons (and salary) and subtract Clark and the two 1's this is still a very flawed defense with a ticking clock on how long Parsons will be elite given that he's undersized.

The two 1's on top, while having WR (and the majority of the offense) completely squared away, at least provides the opportunity of building a more stout, balanced defense.

Oh, I don't have any problem at all with trading Parsons, even as good as he is. I like what we did. I just hate to spend a lot of that salary saved on offense yet again.

But you guys are right -- probably the only money they will ever spend are on guys who are already here, so I guess pay Pickens.

It's the old thing... what is the right thing to do vs. what is Jerry doing to do. I would big picture use the Micah trade to balance out the team on defense, but that's not what Jerry will do.

Hell, if Eberflus doesn't either get his head out of his ass or hit the road - preferably the latter - it might not matter if we have 11 all pros on defense.

 

[Rev]

In the grand scheme it's an easy fix, not something that requires heavy resources. I don't think Williams will get a big deal and even if he leaves you could sign someone like Breece Hall relatively cheap and throw in a mid round draft pick.

A normal team could but we aren't normal. I still dont trust them after years of Dowdle, Davis, older Zeke, Sanders, no Henry etc.

We see how important the run game is for us so its pretty imperative that we get it right.

 

[Texas Ace]

In the grand scheme it's an easy fix, not something that requires heavy resources. I don't think Williams will get a big deal and even if he leaves you could sign someone like Breece Hall relatively cheap and throw in a mid round draft pick.

I like Breece Hall, too.

Much like Williams, he's a very hard runner.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Yep. We only need one person on offense if Pickens goes to make the unit elite. That is Chuma. Go get him and its all you need.

 

[Simpleton]

I like Breece Hall, too.

Much like Williams, he's a very hard runner.

Hall or Williams, Blue and your boy Kaytron Allen would be nice.

 

[Simpleton]

Oh, I don't have any problem at all with trading Parsons, even as good as he is. I like what we did. I just hate to spend a lot of that salary saved on offense yet again.

But you guys are right -- probably the only money they will ever spend are on guys who are already here, so I guess pay Pickens.

It's the old thing... what is the right thing to do vs. what is Jerry doing to do. I would big picture use the Micah trade to balance out the team on defense, but that's not what Jerry will do.

Hell, if Eberflus doesn't either get his head out of his ass or hit the road - preferably the latter - it might not matter if we have 11 all pros on defense.

I don't think they'll be active in FA with defensive guys, the best I could see is them trading for an established vet with a high salary like Crosby.

 

[Genghis Khan]

So we will have almost traded an excellent defensive player for another offensive player when the offense was already so far ahead of the defense.

In fairness we also have two first round picks that we wouldn't otherwise have.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

In fairness we also have two first round picks that we wouldn't otherwise have.

True, and I'm all for that. Plus, I bet they try to bring Clark back on a reduced contract. One of those, see what you can get and we'll match or top it if you'll come back things. As much love as they've shown him, he might go for it.

Like I say, I actually like the trade. Of course they can't Mazi the picks.

 

[Texas Ace]

Hall or Williams, Blue and your boy Kaytron Allen would be nice.

Big fan of Kaytron as well.

 

[Cujo]

The way I look at it is, we have 3 picks in the first 2 rounds in each of the next two drafts. That means we can infuse the defense with a lot of talent relatively cheaply and by the time those guys need to be paid Pickens will be off the books.

And we're not going to spend on outside free agents anyway so it's not like paying Pickens will stop us from signing immediate veteran help on defense. We weren't going to anyway.

Excellent points. I hope we trade down with at least one of them to acquire a couple more.

 

[boozeman]

 

[Rev]

Who would have thought he would have cleared waivers

 

[mcnuttz]

Who would have thought he would have cleared waivers

We're about to have the deepest crop of #6 WRs in the entire league, an embarrassment of riches to be sure.

This the benefit one enjoys when he's a fan of the richest team in sports.

Shit just goes your way.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Broaddus said on the Break that he's told that all of the new guys off IR will play. Said we'll probably go with 6 WRs.

Because Jerry has to get Muh Mingo on the field.

 

[Simpleton]

Broaddus said on the Break that he's told that all of the new guys off IR will play. Said we'll probably go with 6 WRs.

Because Jerry has to get Muh Mingo on the field.

He's definitely going to let a ball clang off his hands on a slant or something on the 6 plays he's on the field, I'm just hoping it doesn't result in an INT.