2025 Draft Chatter Thread

[Genghis Khan]

Jerruh: Mingo's 4.3, Mingo was a 2nd rounder for us, yet Mingo is new to us and we're new to Mingo still. The odds of that rookie WR or Mingo of being what we want them to be, we like Mingo's odds better so that let's us get a cornerback

If I didn't know he's just a bullshitter I'd swear to Christ he's retarded.

 

[Simpleton]

I wasn't a huge fan of going OG at 12, but the guy is probably going to be an above average starter for us for 7, 8 years.

With all the DE's we had go down last year getting great value on round 2 is a win.

Same at CB. We were rolling out guys who had no business being on the filed last year so I get it.

I think we move up for a RB in the 4th and snag another one later or in UDFA who will make the team. And throw picks at some big DT's.

Worried about WR for sure. Only hope is a trade before week 1 I'm afraid.

I just hope their thought process wasn't Zack retired get an guard. Lawrence left get a DE. Lewis left get a CB. I mean we did need to replace those guys, but we have bigger needs. But I guess it's better not to reach for a need and take BPA. Don't think they did I'm round 1, but for sure did in rounds 2 and 3.

I don't think they were targeting positions necessarily, especially DE. Eze just happened to be a glaringly obvious BPA situation, otherwise I doubt they'd have gone with an edge.

 

[boozeman]

I did. I don't take as much joy in this as others. But I also don't feel outraged. I understand why he has dropped.

Yep. Way he was raised.

 

[Cotton]

 

[Genghis Khan]

It's true, at this point I don't really see the need to take a WR unless it's a BPA type situation.

But any WR they take from here on out is probably 50/50 at best to even make the roster, at least one of these RB's could end up being a starter given the depth of the position.

Yeah, there are some prospects remaining at WR but they won't have the impact that one of the remaining RBs would have. It's a no brainer to take a RB.

I wouldn't mind another developmental WR at some point, but I think the notion of finding an impact WR out of this draft has passed.

We really fucked up in round 1.

 

[Simpleton]

Yeah, there are some prospects remaining at WR but they won't have the impact that one of the remaining RBs would have. It's a no brainer to take a RB.

I wouldn't mind another developmental WR at some point, but I think the notion of finding an impact WR out of this draft has passed.

We really fucked up in round 1.

I wouldn't say they fucked up round 1, Booker is going to be really good.

They fucked up FA, as they do every year, by never going after any true difference makers and leaving that up almost entirely to the draft.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Jerruh: Philadelphia was down and now they're up. I know this.

Yes, and they actually made moves like signing Barkley to facilitate actually improving the team you dumb fuck.

I've got a few reasons why we weren't as good as we thought we'd be. ~points to SOM~ We've got this guy now.

You already had him dumbass.

 

[Genghis Khan]

They fucked up FA,

This is true, but that is what it is.

In a vacuum, if we came away from this draft without a guard we'd be fine.

Without an impact WR (which is how it turned out), it's going to be a major uphill climb moving the ball unless Tolbert or someone majorly steps up.

That's a mistake, because you didn't take the player that would have made your team much better.

It's not that Booker won't be a good player, it's that the impact isn't there when it could have been.

Golden for example will be a good player also, so saying Booker will be good isn't the point.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I wouldn't say they fucked up round 1, Booker is going to be really good.

They fucked up FA, as they do every year, by never going after any true difference makers and leaving that up almost entirely to the draft.

Booker is going to be really good.

Golden is going to be really good. Egbuka is going to be really good.

Just because we drafted a good player doesn't mean it isn't a mistake. The idea is to build a team. Not to just add a good player. You need talent at more than 1 or two positions on a team.

 

[L.T. Fan]

So you think we should have drafted one of these QBs?

Now that's an interesting take. I do like Kyle McCord on day three. But passing on these QBs is far from a mistake. It's a bad QB class.

What i am saying is that it doesn’t matter who you draft because the position that makes them compromised the most is the current QB position. The vast majority of the franchises money is tied up in the current QB who is still questionable about as to his physical state . In addition even if in good physical condition he still has yet to display a championship skill level.

There isn’t a back up QB on the squad that has any real capability to turn things around but there may have been one available in this years draft crop that possibly could. Again I say possibly who could have but that raises another debate spinoff.

As things are now the team has needs at several position but if the current QB remains in his current position the likelihood of a turnaround to being a contender is still pretty low in my opinion.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

What i am saying is that it doesn’t matter who you draft because the position that makes them compromised the most is the current QB position. The vast majority of the franchises money is tied up in the current QB who is still questionable about as to his physical state . In addition even if in good physical condition he still has yet to display a championship skill level.

There isn’t a back up QB on the squad that has any real capability to turn things around but there may have been one available in this years draft crop that possibly could. Again I say possibly who could have but that raises another debate spinoff.

As things are now the team has needs at several position but if the current QB remains in his current position the likelihood of a turnaround to being a contender is still pretty low in my opinion.

Milton spits in your general direction.

 

[Simpleton]

This is true, but that is what it is.

In a vacuum, if we came away from this draft without a guard we'd be fine.

Without an impact WR (which is how it turned out), it's going to be a major uphill climb moving the ball unless Tolbert or someone majorly steps up.

That's a mistake, because you didn't take the player that would have made your team much better.

It's not that Booker won't be a good player, it's that the impact isn't there when it could have been.

Golden for example will be a good player also, so saying Booker will be good isn't the point.

Yea I agree it's a mistake, especially as it relates to trying to win this season, but to me "fucked up" just implies it was horrible pick that could easily bust which I don't think it is.

Taking a huge risk on a guy like Kelvin Joseph in the 2nd would be an example.

 

[Genghis Khan]

It does have to do with his Dad. It has to do with thebshitshow he brings, the way he managed the process and the entitled stuff he pumped into his sons head. I agree that Sanders physical skills are good enough to have been a second or third round pick. But no one wants to hitch their wagon to the shit show of Sanders when his son isn't ready to actually play NFL QB.

This is it exactly.

I honestly think the schadenfreude against Sanders has gone way too far. I think it was funny at first but now I feel bad for the kid.

But it comes down to, if his talent was overwhelming, then you just take him and deal with the nonsense.

But since it's not, you'd rather take other developmental QBs instead because the outside pressure potentially forcing you into playing this guy when maybe he's not ready (accusations like favoritism or racism or having Deion badmouthing you publicly) just isn't worth it.

 

[boozeman]

 

[Genghis Khan]

nobody wants him for a backup because they know he'll have such an entitled, toxic attitude if he doesn't get to play immediately.

Right, exactly.

 

[Cotton]

I think it was funny at first but now I feel bad for the kid.

I don't feel bad for him one bit.

 

[boozeman]

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Yea I agree it's a mistake, especially as it relates to trying to win this season, but to me "fucked up" just implies it was horrible pick that could easily bust which I don't think it is.

Taking a huge risk on a guy like Kelvin Joseph in the 2nd would be an example.

Yeah I don't think we took any real bust risks. That's always good. But we still don't have a legit full team either.

 

[Simpleton]

If they can get 2-3 of those guys, excluding Ewers, it'd be a really solid class.

And even Ewers would be worth a flier at this point.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Do we really want Hoffman or Bass going up against the likes of Lawrence and Carter twice per year.

Why not? We've seen these guys play already and they've been fine.

I remember when people were wringing hands over the FredBeard pick.

Not me, I loved that pick.