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I think it's a shot in the dark signing to see if he can be better than the shit we have behind Lamb. I wouldn't read much into it.

Right now, I have to think Dallas is seriously considering a top WR in this draft. I still think they will take a 1 tech at some point. I think they will take a RB who can be a bell cow.

Other than that you know a corner will come somewhere in the draft as well. A trade down and a Golden/Egbuka with an extra second or third would fit perfectly to be able to take all those positions with impact guys.

Yeah I think that's exactly the plan.
 

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Only if they got Barron, there isn't a single CB I'd want in the first outside of Johnson or Barron.
I'll be honest I have not paid much attention to the corners in this draft. I know a few of the top names but after that I only know the names and not much else.

Will Johnson has really started to scare me. Not because I don't think he is a really good corner. But because he was injured for much of 2024. And now it's like injury after injury this offseason to prevent him from working out. Now maybe the injuries aren't real and he just doesn't want to run because he is afraid running will hurt his stock. Either way that scares me.

Barron is a really good player. The 5'11" with short arms freaks people out. I think it will freak the Cowbpys out too frankly. Yes he would be a perfect replacement for Jordan Lewis. Even an upgrade. But I don't think you draft a slot corner that high. So unless you think he is replacing Diggs a year from now I just don't see it.

The interesting corner who won't go top 15 that we don't mention because of an injury is Revel Jr. He fits everything Dallas likes. Would have been a top 15 pick had he not gotten hurt. And at 6'2" 194 he is the prototype of the corner we have liked in the past. I wonder how far he drops. Could he be the next Cowboys injury special in the second round?
 

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I'll be honest I have not paid much attention to the corners in this draft. I know a few of the top names but after that I only know the names and not much else.

Will Johnson has really started to scare me. Not because I don't think he is a really good corner. But because he was injured for much of 2024. And now it's like injury after injury this offseason to prevent him from working out. Now maybe the injuries aren't real and he just doesn't want to run because he is afraid running will hurt his stock. Either way that scares me.

Barron is a really good player. The 5'11" with short arms freaks people out. I think it will freak the Cowbpys out too frankly. Yes he would be a perfect replacement for Jordan Lewis. Even an upgrade. But I don't think you draft a slot corner that high. So unless you think he is replacing Diggs a year from now I just don't see it.

The interesting corner who won't go top 15 that we don't mention because of an injury is Revel Jr. He fits everything Dallas likes. Would have been a top 15 pick had he not gotten hurt. And at 6'2" 194 he is the prototype of the corner we have liked in the past. I wonder how far he drops. Could he be the next Cowboys injury special in the second round?
If Johnson tests as expected a few weeks before the draft I'm not worried about him at all. He's a playmaker with ideal size (except for arm length) and will probably go before we pick anyway.

Barron is probably primarily a slot but he also played outside at Texas and is very physical. In a zone heavy scheme like we'll see with Eberflus I think he could play either.

But to my original point, trading down and taking a CB would not be better than taking Johnson at 12 (pre-draft workout pending) unless we got Barron. Trading down and taking Revel or whoever else would be significantly worse than taking Johnson who is a blue chip guy outside of the fact that he missed part of last season and the pre-draft stuff so far.
 

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If they believe they are going to have Diggs and Bland as long term starers, they will not be picking a CB in the first. 2nd or 3rd, maybe. I do think they'll take a CB, but 5th might be the most likely.

I think our first will probably be WR, RB, or DL.
 

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If they believe they are going to have Diggs and Bland as long term starers, they will not be picking a CB in the first. 2nd or 3rd, maybe. I do think they'll take a CB, but 5th might be the most likely.

I think our first will probably be WR, RB, or DL.
It really depends on whether or not they're willing to pay both Bland and Diggs, and given Diggs recent injury history I'd be a bit surprised if they kept him around much longer.

He could have a bounce back year but they won't know that by the draft of course.

If Johnson is gone I think they probably go elsewhere, but if Jeanty, McMillan and Williams are all off the board and Johnson is there, I think he's the pick.
 

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Depends what they think about Diggs' latest injury. Sounds to me like that knee could be finished, especially since different people around the team have said he didn't rehab the last one hard enough.

But we know these jokers always expect every injury to be resolved 100%, if not higher. So who knows. I did notice that the first thing Eberflus praised when asked about the defense was the corner duo. Not sure if that means something or was just happy coach-speak.
 

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It really depends on whether or not they're willing to pay both Bland and Diggs, and given Diggs recent injury history I'd be a bit surprised if they kept him around much longer.

He could have a bounce back year but they won't know that by the draft of course.

If Johnson is gone I think they probably go elsewhere, but if Jeanty, McMillan and Williams are all off the board and Johnson is there, I think he's the pick.
Yeah I've looked at Diggs contract. They can cut him after this season and save money. To the tune of like 12 mil. So unless he comes back strong this year it wouldn't surprise me if the team looks a year ahead with a draft pick. Sort of like they did with Kneeland and Lawrence last year.

I wouldn't trade down with the idea of taking a corner in the first. I mean it could still be a possibility. But you trade down because you like 3 or 4 WRs and a couple corners and know you'll get one. And in the process if you get an extra second or third. You can use that extra pick to get a corner like Revel potentially (Or someone looks at his pre injury tape and says screw it and takes him early) and instead you're looking at Trey Amos in the secondish round.

If you're locked into one position in the first, you're an idiot. And second if you're locked into corner, you probably can't trade down more than a couple picks.
 

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Yeah I've looked at Diggs contract. They can cut him after this season and save money. To the tune of like 12 mil. So unless he comes back strong this year it wouldn't surprise me if the team looks a year ahead with a draft pick. Sort of like they did with Kneeland and Lawrence last year.

I wouldn't trade down with the idea of taking a corner in the first. I mean it could still be a possibility. But you trade down because you like 3 or 4 WRs and a couple corners and know you'll get one. And in the process if you get an extra second or third. You can use that extra pick to get a corner like Revel potentially (Or someone looks at his pre injury tape and says screw it and takes him early) and instead you're looking at Trey Amos in the secondish round.

If you're locked into one position in the first, you're an idiot. And second if you're locked into corner, you probably can't trade down more than a couple picks.
If it were me I'd consider CB each step along the way but wouldn't overly prioritize one.

If Johnson is clearly the BPA at 12? Sure.

If we trade down to 18 and Barron is the clear BPA? Sure.

And on down the line.

But I'd also be fine going into next year with Diggs, Bland, Elam, Carson, a 5th rounder and whatever other schlubs they want to keep on the back end of the roster.

Of course if it was up to me I'd have signed someone like Samuel by now, but that's another story.
 

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Are there any corners that could start right away at 44? I don't see how Diggs can even play this year, at least at the beginning of the season. Talking about bone grafts is never good.

Because I felt that Jerry almost gave away that they were targeting DT in the draft... Though it wouldn't surprise me if they expected Mazi to suddenly become a good starter. :doh
 

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Are there any corners that could start right away at 44? I don't see how Diggs can even play this year, at least at the beginning of the season. Talking about bone grafts is never good.

Because I felt that Jerry almost gave away that they were targeting DT in the draft... Though it wouldn't surprise me if they expected Mazi to suddenly become a good starter. :doh
I'm excited to see what the scheme and Dline coach can do for Mazi. I know he is everyone's favorite to bitch about but he actually started to flash last year. There were games where he kind of looked dominant. Granted it certainly wasn't every week but it was a big step up from his rookie year. And I've always said NT is a position that takes time to develop.

This is the deepest 1 tech draft I can remember. They would be stupid to not take a DT. So I'd be shocked if we didn't take one. But I also don't think that means first round pick. I almost feel like Jerry was referencing the depth of the position when he made those comments. I think Eberflus value DT but I also don't know if they would draft one in the first after signing Osa to that deal.
 
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But I'd also be fine going into next year with Diggs, Bland, Elam, Carson, a 5th rounder and whatever other schlubs they want to keep on the back end of the roster.

Of course if it was up to me I'd have signed someone like Samuel by now, but that's another story.
This is pretty much how I feel. But that may be because I don't think we are winning any Superbowls next year. So it's going to be a year of feeling things out anyway. I'd rather solve corner in free agency by signing a guy to a few years deal. But we never do that.

That's the problem with even Kaiir Elam. You rent him for a year. If you somehow crack that potential and he has a good year? Dude is gone to another team. So it doesn't solve anything long term. Maybe it helps this year and nothing beyond.
 

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This is the deepest 1 tech draft I can remember. They would be stupid to not take a DT. So I'd be shocked if we didn't take one. But I also don't think that means first round pick. I almost feel like Jerry was referencing the depth of the position when he made those comments.
Maybe that is what he was thinking, knowing they'd probably resign Osa. (I don't think he was signed yet when Jerry said that.) I'm curious where Williams goes, I think he's a pet cat after seeing his combine.

Of course it would be crazy to basically pre-decide a second round pick in March, but we know crazy is what Jerry does.

And I wouldn't count on Mazi for anything but backup snaps. He's gone from almost unplayable to decent backup but that doesn't mean he'll keep progressing.
 

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I'm curious where Williams goes, I think he's a pet cat after seeing his combine.
Probably second, but maybe late first. I assume you mean Tyleik Williams? Depends if teams like him more than Nolan, Harmon and Grant. And of course true NT types tend to drop a little.
 

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And I wouldn't count on Mazi for anything but backup snaps. He's gone from almost unplayable to decent backup but that doesn't mean he'll keep progressing.
Starter, not starter it doesn't matter. You want him around 30 snaps a game. Milton Williams last year? 29ish snaps a game. Super productive as a pass rusher. Osa playing 50+ snaps per game? Not ideal.

Part of me is glutton for punishment but I kind of want to see Deone Walker with a badass Dline coach only having to play 25-30 snaps a game. That's kind of what you'd need from a rookie to rotate with Mazi. And I know, I should be scared of him. I should just want a Jordan Phillips or someone else instead that you know will be a good NT. But I'd be surprised if Walker goes before the third at this point.
 

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Are there any corners that could start right away at 44? I don't see how Diggs can even play this year, at least at the beginning of the season. Talking about bone grafts is never good.

Because I felt that Jerry almost gave away that they were targeting DT in the draft... Though it wouldn't surprise me if they expected Mazi to suddenly become a good starter. :doh
I think Amos probably could, maybe Thomas (Juanyeh's brother), if Morrison and Revel are healthy they might be able to, and if Hairston drops he definitely could.

But there aren't many after Johnson and Barron.
 

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I think Amos probably could, maybe Thomas (Juanyeh's brother), if Morrison and Revel are healthy they might be able to, and if Hairston drops he definitely could.

But there aren't many after Johnson and Barron.
If Revel was healthy he might be the second corner behind Hunter. He was really well thought of. His injury was early so he should be far along in the rehab. But I think you hit the other names.

Someone like Quincy Riley might be able to step in and be a really good slot. But not sure about filling Diggs role on the outside.

Porter has insane traits but he kind of gets shit on for his technique and actual play.
 
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It really depends on whether or not they're willing to pay both Bland and Diggs, and given Diggs recent injury history I'd be a bit surprised if they kept him around much longer.

He could have a bounce back year but they won't know that by the draft of course.

If Johnson is gone I think they probably go elsewhere, but if Jeanty, McMillan and Williams are all off the board and Johnson is there, I think he's the pick.

Yes but I don't know that they plan ahead like that.
 

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From reading the tea leaves I think our pick in the first basically comes down to this:

Primary options: Jeanty, Graham, McMillan, Mykel Williams, Johnson

Secondary options, maybe after a trade down: Golden, Barron, Egbuka, maybe one of the DL like Grant or Harmon

My biggest question is how do they view the various DT's like Harmon, Grant and Nolen?

Given the FA signings I think it's less likely they take a pass rush-first DL who is only so-so against the run like Nolen or Green.
 

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From reading the tea leaves I think our pick in the first basically comes down to this:

Primary options: Jeanty, Graham, McMillan, Mykel Williams, Johnson

Secondary options, maybe after a trade down: Golden, Barron, Egbuka, maybe one of the DL like Grant or Harmon

My biggest question is how do they view the various DT's like Harmon, Grant and Nolen?

Given the FA signings I think it's less likely they take a pass rush-first DL who is only so-so against the run like Nolen or Green.
You think we're out on guys like Stewart? I mean, Fowler is a one-year rental at best.
 
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