2024 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

[Cotton]

 

[son of deadrise]

His agents is a real asshole with the Cowboys.

 

[son of deadrise]

The problem with Dak is that you have to surround him with so many pieces. The cowboys are great at drafting but so are the Eagles and 49ers. You cant have a QB with the highest cap hit in the league and a front office that consistently steps on their own toes.

The Cowboys (of late) have had decent drafts. The difference is they sit on draft choices (Exhibit A, Gallup) waiting and hoping. SF and Philly do the churn and burn approach —trades, FAs, move on from the mistakes. Jerry sits in his hands and gives mediocre players (Exhibit B, Steele) big contracts.

 

[Bill Shatner]

Dak = Kirk
Dak's agent = Spock

Stephen = Kahn

Just awful comparisons.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

The Cowboys (of late) have had decent drafts. The difference is they sit on draft choices (Exhibit A, Gallup) waiting and hoping. SF and Philly do the churn and burn approach —trades, FAs, move on from the mistakes. Jerry sits in his hands and gives mediocre players (Exhibit B, Steele) big contracts.

Yep, the Eagles and 49ers are very active in improving their team. They draft ok but they aren't afraid to go add a star player via free agency or a trade if they think it will push them over the top. The Cowboys I think actually may draft better, have the better QB but they don't do anything else to be better. No trading for McCaffery or AJ Brown. No signing free agents like Hargrave.

Everything they do isn't gold but they never stop trying. Did trading for Chase Young work out? Not really. But they move on and keep adding. The Cowboys just sit pat. Like by sitting still and doing nothing they will somehow pass the other teams.

When Stephen was a child he must have taken the "slow and steady wins the race" very seriously.

 

[Cotton]

 

[boozeman]

It is affirmed. We are stupid AND cheap.

 

[son of deadrise]

It is affirmed. We are stupid AND cheap.

When a team has the fourth lowest payroll, yet is still pinched for cap room, that pretty much equals stupid AND cheap.

 

[Rev]

It is affirmed. We are stupid AND cheap.

but look at what they are clearing.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

It is affirmed. We are stupid AND cheap.

This is what happens when you spend no money in an offseason. Your cap is made of signing bonuses handed out in previous years. If we redo Dak or Lamb or Parsons suddenly that number will jump from the signing bonus. We absolutely are cheap and we use the salary cap as a crutch to appear that we aren't.

 

[boozeman]

but look at what they are clearing.

I am sure the whole greedy lot is on top of that for sure.

 

[son of deadrise]

This is what happens when you spend no money in an offseason. Your cap is made of signing bonuses handed out in previous years. If we redo Dak or Lamb or Parsons suddenly that number will jump from the signing bonus. We absolutely are cheap and we use the salary cap as a crutch to appear that we aren't.

Except that doesn't answer the question of how other teams strike the balance, and assumes the fans are as stupid as the owners. The churn and burn approach, never being satisfied with the status quo—trades, FAs—requires a certain outlook and acumen in front office, both of which are in short supply in Dallas.

Sometimes the moves don't work out, but the fans know the FO is always trying to fill needs and get better.

 

[SaveAHorseRideACowboy]

Just more proof this organization gives 2 shits about winning championship and staying a dynasty…. It’s all about putting a competitive product on the field to park asses in the seats to generate revenue to pad their redneck pockets..reminds me of all the big corporations out there these days …

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Except that doesn't answer the question of how other teams strike the balance, and assumes the fans are as stupid as the owners. The churn and burn approach, never being satisfied with the status quo—trades, FAs—requires a certain outlook and acumen in front office, both of which are in short supply in Dallas.

Sometimes the moves don't work out, but the fans know the FO is always trying to fill needs and get better.

Other teams strike a balance because they have a GM that knows they could be fired if they don't do those things. You know McCarthy has had 3 straight 12 win seasons but is sitting here on the brink of being fired for not doing anything in the playoffs. You know who isn't on the brink of being fired for not making the moves necessary to get over the hump? Our general manager. Because he has no risk of losing his job. He doesn't care about winning it all, he cares about winning enough to keep fans interested. The only way he is fired is if the team loses money to the extent that it's no longer profitable for the family. There is a different criteria of success for our GM compared to every other NFL team. Because our GM in reality is the owners kid.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Other teams strike a balance because they have a GM that knows they could be fired if they don't do those things. You know McCarthy has had 3 straight 12 win seasons but is sitting here on the brink of being fired for not doing anything in the playoffs. You know who isn't on the brink of being fired for not making the moves necessary to get over the hump? Our general manager. Because he has no risk of losing his job. He doesn't care about winning it all, he cares about winning enough to keep fans interested. The only way he is fired is if the team loses money to the extent that it's no longer profitable for the family. There is a different criteria of success for our GM compared to every other NFL team. Because our GM in reality is the owners kid.

This is such an enormous point for what holds this team back.

 

[p1_]

what determines the actual draft selection slotting of the multiple 5th rounders?

 

[Cowboysrock55]

what determines the actual draft selection slotting of the multiple 5th rounders?

Didn't think you could have more than 3 comp picks for lost players.

 

[son of deadrise]

Other teams strike a balance because they have a GM that knows they could be fired if they don't do those things. You know McCarthy has had 3 straight 12 win seasons but is sitting here on the brink of being fired for not doing anything in the playoffs. You know who isn't on the brink of being fired for not making the moves necessary to get over the hump? Our general manager. Because he has no risk of losing his job. He doesn't care about winning it all, he cares about winning enough to keep fans interested. The only way he is fired is if the team loses money to the extent that it's no longer profitable for the family. There is a different criteria of success for our GM compared to every other NFL team. Because our GM in reality is the owners kid.

Excellent point, and my stupidity for comparing the Dallas FO to other teams when there is no comparison.

In the past, I've taken comfort from the fact that Jerry will go to his grave without ever seeing another SB. Stephen looks so unhealthy and sallow that chance are he won't either. But now I'm not sure either one of them cares.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Excellent point, and my stupidity for comparing the Dallas FO to other teams when there is no comparison.

In the past, I've taken comfort from the fact that Jerry will go to his grave without ever seeing another SB. Stephen looks so unhealthy and sallow that chance are he won't either. But now I'm not sure either one of them cares.

They don't care. Stephen especially. He won't come out and say it directly but he has let things slip that indicate otherwise in my opinion. When he says we haven't had success in the playoffs to "their satisfaction" it tells me we have had success to Jerry and Stephen's satisfaction.

He brags to the fact that players signing big contracts elsewhere just means he has done a good job with the draft. Totally ignoring that the ultimate success of a season is how you end it.

 

[son of deadrise]

They don't care. Stephen especially. He won't come out and say it directly but he has let things slip that indicate otherwise in my opinion. When he says we haven't had success in the playoffs to "their satisfaction" it tells me we have had success to Jerry and Stephen's satisfaction.

He brags to the fact that players signing big contracts elsewhere just means he has done a good job with the draft. Totally ignoring that the ultimate success of a season is how you end it.

Sturm claims it's the most profitable franchise in the NFL, if not in all of professional sports. They fill every seat on every home date, they're on national TV as much or more than any team, and the ratings are strong, Why should they care?

The other side of that is why should a player like Dak Prescott care? Why shouldn't he use his leverage to milk every last cent he can out of these greedy rubes?