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Genghis Khan

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I think the implication here is wrong, I don't think for 1 second that Obama cheated and it swung his elections. He was pretty popular among swing voters and the Republican candidates were not inspiring.

But it's definitely not a coincidence that Democrat states don't require ID and Republican states do.
 

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I think the implication here is wrong, I don't think for 1 second that Obama cheated and it swung his elections. He was pretty popular among swing voters and the Republican candidates were not inspiring.

But it's definitely not a coincidence that Democrat states don't require ID and Republican states do.
Yeah I agree, I don't think you can assume the number of illegal voters in that election was enough to swing the election. Do illegal votes happen? Absolutely. Do we have any idea what those numbers are? I don't think we ever would find out.
 

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Yeah I agree, I don't think you can assume the number of illegal voters in that election was enough to swing the election. Do illegal votes happen? Absolutely. Do we have any idea what those numbers are? I don't think we ever would find out.
Are we talking about Obama's election, or 2020? Because yes, Obama didn't have to cheat to win coming off Iraq and the financial meltdown. Not so much in 2020 given all the evidence with the mass mail-in ballots.

But I'm struck how much I used to think like you when I was around your age. Not so much anymore.
 

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Are we talking about Obama's election, or 2020? Because yes, Obama didn't have to cheat to win coming off Iraq and the financial meltdown. Not so much in 2020 given all the evidence with the mass mail-in ballots.

But I'm struck how much I used to think like you when I was around your age. Not so much anymore.
2020 is different. Trump scared the establishment to such extremes, I have no doubt in 2020 people of power would go to extreme lengths to prevent his election.
 

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So condescending. Yet everyone claps like trained seals.
It's also cringey as hell.

It's like that kid we all knew in high school that acted different depending on the crowd he was around.

Everything from the mannerisms to the accent and slang would change.

The fact that a 50-something year old would act this way, and one who is running for president at that, is so absurd and embarrassing that I can't believe anyone could take her seriously as a candidate.

WTF are we doing as a country right now?
 

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And for the record, I think Trump is embarrassing too, but at least he actually has a plan and policies he wants to enforce and a direction he wants to go in -- many of which were beneficial to me personally.

WTF is Kamala running on? Wokeness?

Who exactly does this benefit? And how exactly does it help you as an American taxpayer?
 

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It's also cringey as hell.

It's like that kid we all knew in high school that acted different depending on the crowd he was around.

Everything from the mannerisms to the accent and slang would change.

The fact that a 50-something year old would act this way, and one who is running for president at that, is so absurd and embarrassing that I can't believe anyone could take her seriously as a candidate.

WTF are we doing as a country right now?
I remember Victor Davis Hansen talking about when Trump first started running in 2016 (or 15)... He asked a friend who'd seen Trump campaign in VDH's native California farm country how he was dressed. The friend said he had on his normal suit, red tie, etc. Hansen said he knew then Trump would do well there because he showed up in his normal dress and not in hokey overalls or whatever else he thought farm people would wear. Why, because people can sense that type of insincerity and pandering, and it turns them off.

Of course, he also wasn't a lifelong professional politician like Kamala.
 

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And for the record, I think Trump is embarrassing too, but at least he actually has a plan and policies he wants to enforce and a direction he wants to go in -- many of which were beneficial to me personally.

WTF is Kamala running on? Wokeness?

Who exactly does this benefit? And how exactly does it help you as an American taxpayer?
Trump is cringe as hell, but it's like an oddly authentic cringe.
 

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And for the record, I think Trump is embarrassing too, but at least he actually has a plan and policies he wants to enforce and a direction he wants to go in -- many of which were beneficial to me personally.

WTF is Kamala running on? Wokeness?

Who exactly does this benefit? And how exactly does it help you as an American taxpayer?

The other thing about Trump is, he's the same guy no matter what room he's in.
 

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And I can throw a rock (figuratively, but almost literally) from my house into the CIA "Farm" in Williamsburg, VA. Doesn't mean I know wtf they are thinking.

What are you doing, hanging out at the greasy spoon outside the gate and asking people what their political leanings are? Just STFU already.
The very next sentence after the one you quoted said this, Mr. Disingenuous as Usual:

It, like your experience, is entirely anecdotal, though mine from a much larger sample size I'd bet.
 

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The other thing about Trump is, he's the same guy no matter what room he's in.
This is definitely true. Which is why you feel like you at least know who he really is. Sure, he will brag, and his bragging consists of lies about his weight, the doctors opinion of his physical fitness, the size of the crowd at a rally or something like that. He will claim to be the best and most brilliant guy ever. But that's how he always is and we know that these things aren't true but they really come down to embelishments.

It's the chameleon who changes their color based on their environment that you look at and realize you have no idea who the hell they are, except that at their very nature they are fake or not real.
 
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