2023 Season | Week 9 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Cowboys @ Eagles | 11/05/23

[UncleMilti]

I’ve been a huge critic of McCarthy but no way is that POS in Philly a better coach. He does however have better players in a few spots. That’s not McCarthys fault.

 

[Bipo]

I'd like to hear the front office mindset on giving all these broken players multi million dollar contracts.

Over a bottle of Johnny Blue of course.

 

[bbgun]

Cornerback will be really iffy next year. Gilmore won't be back, and Diggs might not be ready for the season. Plus, he was never the fastest guy to begin with. We already have two guys (Gallup & Steele) who haven't done well coming off an ACL; we don't need a third. Prepare accordingly, Jerry.

 

[Bipo]

Cornerback will be really iffy next year. Gilmore won't be back, and Diggs might not be ready for the season. Plus, he was never the fastest guy to begin with. We already have two guys (Gallup & Steele) who haven't done well coming off an ACL; we don't need a third. Prepare accordingly, Jerry.

An all CB first three rounds would be super exciting in these parts.

 

[kidd]

I just watched this play again and even though Cooks comes open, I don’t know that Dark has a clear passing lane. He’s rolling to his left and with turnstile Steele on the right, who can blame him?

 

[bbgun]

I’ll give Dak a pass for not seeing Cooks on this one. This seems like one of those plays where you pretty much have to make up your mind where you’re going with the ball before the snap.

Yeah, I didn't post the clip to throw shade at Dak, but rather illustrate how Fergy could've ran a better rub route.

 

[Bipo]

I just watched this play again and even though Cooks comes open, I don’t know that Dark has a clear passing lane. He’s rolling to his left and with turnstile Steele on the right, who can blame him?

I see the slip you made here.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I just watched this play again and even though Cooks comes open, I don’t know that Dark has a clear passing lane. He’s rolling to his left and with turnstile Steele on the right, who can blame him?

There was also a blitz and a free guy right up the gut. Dak didn't really have time here. He basically had to predetermine the throw. If I were to criticize anything it would be that once you see the blitzing guy up the middle you know the middle is wide open. So maybe that should be your first read. The downside it there is a guy right in your face and you're looking for a 5'9" WR, you throw it there and there is a good chance the ball gets batted because there is a guy in your face that direction. The throw to the left is easier because you have an easier passing lane there.

 

[son of deadrise]

Yes, Dak should have taken the better option, but what you're missing is that the option Dak picked ALSO WORKED except for the shitty, shitty officiating. You can't just ignore that part of it.

That's the whole point. If Dak throws the easy pass to Cooks no one would have ever seen or noticed the officiating. It would have been irrelevant. And that's why one official's call on one play really doesn't matter.

You could go back over 1,000 plays in a 100 games and find who knows how many bad calls? Try to apply some kind of paranoid mathematical formula to the outcome of those 100 games?

All this officiating conspiracy shit is delusional compensating — trying to rationalize an organization that's JUST NOT FUCKING GOOD ENOUGH.

Everyone on this board knows where the real deficiency lies, and it ain't with the refs.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

That's the whole point. If Dak throws the easy pass to Cooks no one would have ever seen or noticed the officiating. It would have been irrelevant. And that's why one official's call on one play really doesn't matter.

You could go back over 1,000 plays in a 100 games and find who knows how many bad calls? Try to apply some kind of paranoid mathematical formula to the outcome of those 100 games?

All this officiating conspiracy shit is delusional compensating — trying to rationalize an organization that's JUST NOT FUCKING GOOD ENOUGH.

Everyone on this board knows where the real deficiency lies, and it ain't with the refs.

You did see the blitzer in the middle going unblocked right? Any concern that throwing in that guys direction is likely to lead to a tipped ball?

 

[kidd]

I just watched this play again and even though Cooks comes open, I don’t know that Dark has a clear passing lane. He’s rolling to his left and with turnstile Steele on the right, who can blame him?

Here’s a better breakdown.

 

[kidd]

That's the whole point. If Dak throws the easy pass to Cooks no one would have ever seen or noticed the officiating. It would have been irrelevant.

There was no “easy pass to Cooks”.

Dak had a defender in his face on that side and no real clear passing lane.

Dak took the best throw and the refs fucked him.

 

[kidd]

If there’s anything to blame here, it’s Jerry for not addressing the running game. If we have Zeke or the equivalent and the ball on the six, we run it down there throat and score

 

[son of deadrise]

You did see the blitzer in the middle going unblocked right? Any concern that throwing in that guys direction is likely to lead to a tipped ball?

It's all split-second, slam-bang, high-speed shit with guys flying in every direction. And yet the refs are supposed to make the perfect call.

 

[Genghis Khan]

So then don't play him.

 

[boozeman]

 

[Genghis Khan]

Recall Tyron played the right side when Steele was injured,

Tyron wasn't great at RT (certainly nowhere near the HOF level he is at LT), and if you move him that's downgrading 2 spots now. I think the best option is to just stick one of the backups there and hope for the best.

The good news is that even with the horrific level of play Steel put out yesterday, they still mostly made it work and now you have a few cupcake opponents in a row to sort all this out.

 

[Simpleton]

This is idiocy, this is basically saying we have a 13% chance at winning the division when we're two games behind in the loss column and only one if we beat them at home.

This could have tiebreaker stuff factored in which I don't really have a bead on right now, but I think there's at least a 40% chance that we finish with the same or better record as the Eagles, more likely the same record.

 

[NoDak]

It's all split-second, slam-bang, high-speed shit with guys flying in every direction. And yet the refs are supposed to make the perfect call.

Why not, it’s their job. You expect it from the players. Specifically Dak on this play.

And he has to scan the entire field before taking a hit. Each ref is assigned a specific area and job.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Why not, it’s their job. You expect it from the players. Specifically Dak on this play.

And he has to scan the entire field before taking a hit. Each ref is assigned a specific area and job.

Yep. There's a ref assigned right there and it's a clear play with a very obvious foul involved. Of course the ref should be expected to get it right.

I guess Dak should have known ahead of time that not only the eagles defender would commit a penalty, but also that the ref wouldn't call it. Stupid non-prophetic Dak.