2023 Season | Week 6 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Cowboys @ Chargers | 10/15/2023

[1bigfan13]

How we doing, guys?

Everyone good?

 

[NoDak]

Wasn’t the Cowboys player blocked into Turpin? The rule says that’s not a foul. Obviously the hands to the face is a different story.

Where did you come up with this? It is a penalty. I posted the exact rule above.

 

[1bigfan13]

No mention of Aubrey’s greatness. It’s unbelievable the calm, cool and collected way he lines up and drills FGs.

I mentioned him last night during the game.

I've never seen a kicking motion with so little wasted movement. I'm surprised he's able to get as much power on the kicks as he does.

 

[1bigfan13]

Would be nice if the f'n refs knew the rules. We got massively screwed here, and it almost cost us the game.

Not to mention, there was also this. You can not tell me that every ref within 30 yards didn't have their eyes glued to this very spot.

I knew that shit didn't look right last night. Otherwise you'd have teams purposely doing it every week.

The only gray area is the term "passive player". Makes me wonder if they're saying this rule doesn't apply because a Cowboys player was actively blocking.

 

[Smitty]

Problem is, that’s what you got. He’s good

We need great, someone who can transcend average coaching and the influence of the Joneses.

He's not good. Tony Romo was good. And fun.

Prescott is average and a chore to watch. It's just drawn out boredom.

The game itself is way less fun to watch as a sport than it was 20 years ago as well.

Part of the issue is that the team is stuck in a not-fun range. It's clearly - mostly because of it's QB - just not good enough to win and is spinning it's wheels.

But at least with a rebuild, while it's bad, it's fun to watch the young guys try to develop (or not) and dream about what may be in time.

This iteration is like just waiting to be done with it so we can move on to what's next, because there is literally zero hope they can win a Championship.

 

[Smitty]

It really might be time to get a GM who understands that building a good team starts with not trading away your best WR for a fifth round pick.

 

[Smitty]

It must be a wonderful life to be a 20-something billionaire and future NFL team owner who gets to hang around an NFL team all day and fuck hot blondes because you were born into royalty.

 

[Rev]

How we doing, guys?

Everyone good?

Oh I am. Game was boring so I turned it off halfway through. Plus I was still recovering from the Ranger win.

 

[NoDak]

I knew that shit didn't look right last night. Otherwise you'd have teams purposely doing it every week.

The only gray area is the term "passive player". Makes me wonder if they're saying this rule doesn't apply because a Cowboys player was actively blocking.

However that is interpreted, the rule also clearly states the opposing team can not make contact with the return man after a fair catch is called. He also contacted him after pushing Tolbert into him.

Also, I don't think Tolbert should be fielding any blame for trying to recover the ball. That play was such a clusterfuck, nobody had any idea what was going on, if the ball had been touched or not by Dallas.

 

[Smitty]

Dak was awesome and getting this one on the road was big, but the overall sloppiness with the penalties and the piss poor offensive design and OL play gives me absolutely 0 faith this team can make it to the NFCC unless things fall exactly right for us.

The OL just looks completely confused and tentative, and while Steele has been pretty shit there's no way you can tell me we don't have at least as much talent there as SF or Miami. The problem is the overall offensive scheme and/or the position-specific coaching.

It's always the scheme, isn't it? Isn't it odd that the Schottenheimer offense, err, the McCarthy offense, is the same as the Moore offense, errr, the Garrett offense? Only one constant across FOUR different offensive coaches.

Maybe it's the QB is incapable of running a modern scheme and they know it.

 

[Smitty]

Dak was 21/30 for 272 yards and 1 TD.

Makes Smitty's ill-timed rant look even sillier.

I want a QB upgrade as well but tonight was not the night to go on a Dak rant.

It's not ill-timed, he's quite capable of a mediocre 20 point performance. It's been this way for years now, the angst against him is overdue.

He's a bus driver and this performance was the ultimate bus drive. It's actually ignorant to excuse him just because the defense won a game for him and he didn't throw a pick.

I'm over it. I want a QB who can push the offense.

 

[Smitty]

We won with an even turnover ratio.

And only scoring 20 points.

Surprised.

The defense is good at least (though not all-time great).

 

[Genghis Khan]

Wasn’t the Cowboys player blocked into Turpin? The rule says that’s not a foul. Obviously the hands to the face is a different story.

Other way around. The Charger blocked the cowboy into Turpin.

Basically instead of hitting Turpin directly he essentially hit Turpin with another player. If it's not a foul it should be, or at least a dead ball and no fumble.

It would be insane if by rule the kicking team could just do that.

 

[1bigfan13]

And there’s this:

Just another case of Mike McCarthy being too conservative.

It's either that or he doesn't trust Dak to take a shot to the end zone without turning it over.

If you can't trust your $40M+ QB to not turn the ball over in that situation, maybe it's time to find a new QB.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

Would be nice if the f'n refs knew the rules. We got massively screwed here, and it almost cost us the game.

Not to mention, there was also this. You can not tell me that every ref within 30 yards didn't have their eyes glued to this very spot.

This is all because of Jerry Jones in 1995, per Smutty.

 

[Simpleton]

Would be nice if the f'n refs knew the rules. We got massively screwed here, and it almost cost us the game.

Not to mention, there was also this. You can not tell me that every ref within 30 yards didn't have their eyes glued to this very spot.

The officiating is so bad league wide in terms of even the simplest things like spotting the ball, and establishing what the LOS is (which coincidentally is what is leading to all these offsides penalties as guys are lining up mostly even with the ball on almost every snap), that it's completely bastardizing the game.

The league basically doesn't give a single fuck about properly legislating the sport, it's purely about PR/perception, ratings and money.

They'll fuck up 10 calls but as long as they don't get roasted for not calling some marginal personal foul/roughing the passer penalty, it's all good.

 

[boozeman]

The dude was struggling early in camp. I guess he forgot that. It is good we don’t have to worry about the kicker, we would really be in deep shit.

 

[Simpleton]

Gallup really is starting to look like a problem. I'm over the excuses, its just not working and his effort just looks like crap to me.

There's no way they can keep him in the offseason, you can't have a guy counting 12-14M against the cap and playing like this. The first round WR class is going to be very strong again and you can use the savings to re-sign Dorance or Biadasz.

I don't think we'd necessarily have to go WR in the first, but if Odunze or Nabers are there it's a no brainer.

 

[Simpleton]

It's always the scheme, isn't it? Isn't it odd that the Schottenheimer offense, err, the McCarthy offense, is the same as the Moore offense, errr, the Garrett offense? Only one constant across FOUR different offensive coaches.

Maybe it's the QB is incapable of running a modern scheme and they know it.

Have you seen the Chargers offense?

Herbert is one of the top young QB's in the game and their offense ranges from average to above average on a weekly basis.

There are really only 5-10 teams in the league who have forward thinking offenses, maybe even less than that, so yea, it kind of is the offense.

I said last week that if you dropped Dak into SF they wouldn't miss a beat, which is true. Same with Detroit, same with Miami.

The only real outlier is Kansas City because Mahomes is actually an all-time level QB.

 

[boozeman]