2023 Season | Divisional Round | Gameday Chatter Thread | 1/20-1/21/2024

[Genghis Khan]

we're going to see people practically throwing the ball forward when they get close because there will be no penalty for losing it.

But there is a penalty for losing it. The other team could recover it.

That's like saying there's no penalty for losing the ball at the 50 if it goes out of bounds.

Why should the consequences be harsher just because it travels through the end zone?

Heck, if you fumble and it goes out of bounds at the 1, you retain possession. But 1 more yard through the end zone it changes possession? Why?

Heck, you are unnecessarily rewarding the defense for potentially doing nothing.

 

[p1_]

 

[Genghis Khan]

I say keep it as is. Reward the defense for making a play. Every other rule favors the offense.

Who says the defense made a play?

If an offensive player drops the ball completely on his own with no defenders around and it goes through the end zone and out of bounds, the defense should be rewarded for doing absolutely nothing?

I'd be more on board if they changed it to if it goes out of bounds anywhere on the field it changes possession (although I don't prefer it this way). It makes no sense to treat the end zone out of bounds differently than the entire rest of the field.

 

[Genghis Khan]

These stupid memes that serve no purpose other than to dunk on the cowboys are retarded. You can do most of these for a lot of players and teams.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Um, you think?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

But there is a penalty for losing it. The other team could recover it.

That's like saying there's no penalty for losing the ball at the 50 if it goes out of bounds.

Why should the consequences be harsher just because it travels through the end zone?

Heck, if you fumble and it goes out of bounds at the 1, you retain possession. But 1 more yard through the end zone it changes possession? Why?

Heck, you are unnecessarily rewarding the defense for potentially doing nothing.

But the end zone is different. That's why you get a safety for a tackle or penalty in your own end zone.

And sure, players won't be careless with the ball out in the field, but on the sideline by the pylon, they will. I feel these high-profile fumbles through the endzone the last few years have caused less of this ridiculous sticking the ball out with one hand to hit the pylon, which IMO is a good thing.

And even if the defense didn't make a great play, you're still punishing the offense for being careless with the football. Which they should be.

 

[data]

Someone please explain this. Josh Allen has overall playoff record of 5-5.

He’s beaten Lamar Jackson, Philip Rivers and Mac Jones, too

 

[boozeman]

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Someone please explain this. Josh Allen has overall playoff record of 5-5.

He’s beaten Lamar Jackson, Philip Rivers and Mac Jones, too

Thank you. It's almost like not everything on the internet is true.

 

[Genghis Khan]

This is retarded and a dumb analogy. It's a game with rules. There's no fucking fort or whatever fantasy this dude wants to cosplay.

 

[data]

I’d rather fix two other rules:

• Major/minor pass interference. 50 yard penalties on a bomb where minor infraction rewards 15 yards instead
• Delay of game being 00:00. No additional tick.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Someone please explain this. Josh Allen has overall playoff record of 5-5.

He’s beaten Lamar Jackson, Philip Rivers and Mac Jones, too

It's pretzel logic but he says against "starters".

It's not literally true, but I think he more means against starter quality QBs he's 1-5 (ie the only starting quality QB he beat in the playoffs was Lamar Jackson (who by the way was not good in that game).

His other 4 playoff wins are against Mason Rudolph, old decrepit Philip Rivers on the Colts (NOT Rivers in his prime - it's like saying Dak beat Brady, technically true but there's a huge "but" involved), Mac Jones, and Skylar Thompson. Not exactly a murderers row.

I do think there's a case to be made that Allen's playoff record is not particularly impressive but that guy worded it pretty weirdly.

 

[bbgun]

No more "half the distance to the goal line" penalties. If you're at the 8 and your guy holds, place the ball at the 1, not the 4.

 

[Tony D]

OMG, I'm so sick of the memes and shit. This team has more playoff wins than Dallas that team has won 2 playoff games in a row and Dallas hasn't in X amount of years and this QB has this many playoff wins and Dak his this many.

Listen, you want to say the Patriots have 6 Super Bowls since Dallas has won one that makes sense and well deserved. Tom Brady has 7. Green Bay has 2. Giants have 2. Eagles have 1. Chiefs have 2. Denver 3. Tampa 2. Rams 2. Steelers 2. Seattle 1. Saints 1. Ravens 2. Colts 1. All fine.

All I care about is winning Super Bowls. That's all that matters. The Yankees have a lot of playoff wins since their last World Series. Who gives a shit? Means squat. World Championships.

I mean props to the Lions you won a couple playoff games against mediocre teams. I'm happy for you. You almost lucked into 3 home games against the 3 lowest seeded NFC teams if the Packers won. Now go beat the 49ers and then the Ravens/Chiefs. Other than doing that WGAF. They're building something, but there are no guarantees in this league. Could this be a stepping stone to greater things? Maybe. Could they win it all this year? Slight chance and better than ours. But win it or it don't mean shit to me.

 

[Genghis Khan]

No more "half the distance to the goal line" penalties. If you're at the 8 and your guy holds, place the ball at the 1, not the 4.

Oh that's a good one. It should definitely go back to the 1.

I especially hate when like the offense is on their own 8 and commits a 5 yard penalty but they still do half the distance. The yardage penalty is still available, why only mark half the distance?

 

[p1_]

It's pretzel logic but he says against "starters".

It's not literally true, but I think he more means against starter quality QBs he's 1-5 (ie the only starting quality QB he beat in the playoffs was Lamar Jackson (who by the way was not good in that game).

His other 4 playoff wins are against Mason Rudolph, old decrepit Philip Rivers on the Colts (NOT Rivers in his prime - it's like saying Dak beat Brady, technically true but there's a huge "but" involved), Mac Jones, and Skylar Thompson. Not exactly a murderers row.

I do think there's a case to be made that Allen's playoff record is not particularly impressive but that guy worded it pretty weirdly.

there we go. Thanks.

Im not overwhelmed with those names.

 

[boozeman]

 

[Bipo]

I think there was 20 + mph wind as well.

 

[p1_]

And that wasn’t the only one.

 

[Simpleton]

Kansas City deserved to win the game but Allen deserves little to no blame. The only thing that really stands out were the back to back plays late in the 4th where he should've thrown a pick 6 on one play if not for a KC DB batting away a ball that was going to hit another KC DB right between the numbers, and then the very next play he fumbled for what should've been a scoop/score but Kincaid barely knocked it away at the last second as the KC player was gathering it.

That was Buffalo's last drive where they ended up missing the FG, and either of those plays would've been game-enders about 80% of the time, but he got very lucky.

Aside from that he was almost flawless.