2022 Season | Week 6 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Cowboys at Eagles | 10/16/2022

[SaveAHorseRideACowboy]

Horrendously bad all around. …..

He actually should have easily got that off. Graham didn't even touch him until the ball was almost entire out. It's was the slowest delivery in a situation where your WR was beyond wide open.

yeah and with Lambs track record he woulda probably dropped it anyway

 

[SaveAHorseRideACowboy]

I hope he understands what kind of talent is ready to pop in Jake Ferguson.

hendershot isn’t bad either but I love how Schultz bet on himself not signing that contract … we’ll quite frankly he’s losing that bet

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You watch the throws Allen and Mahomes make and you realize Dak isn't even in the same zip code.

I think we already realized that...

 

[SaveAHorseRideACowboy]

I wish they would have taken at least one deep shot against the Eagles. The Eagles CBs were ultra aggressive and were begging to be beat on a double move.

they did .. but rag arm Rush under threw it

 

[son of deadrise]

I think we already realized that...

I guess the reality is not too many other QBs are in that zip code.

 

[SaveAHorseRideACowboy]

Every team controls everything in front of them. Kind of a moronic observation.

Captain obvious ….if ya will

 

[GShock]

Random thought, we need to very seriously consider trading for Derrick Brown.

The Panthers are clearly open for business and I'd be more than happy to give them a 1 and 4, especially considering we're likely getting a 4th as a comp pick for Gregory, and maybe even another 6th or something for Wilson.

The conference is weak, Brady/Rodgers both look over the hill, the Rams offense is a mess, the 49ers are starting Garoppolo, the Vikings and Cousins are a disaster waiting to happen and the Giants are a huge fluke. It's not a stretch to say that the conference could come down to us and the Eagles, and that matchup could come down to us stopping their running game.

Enter Brown, who will shut shit down between the A gaps while adding a pocket collapsing force to our pass rush.

Adding a premier DT is the last piece needed for this to be a potentially all-time type defense, and Brown is a guy who could be a cornerstone for the next 6-8 years given that he's only in his third season.

I would do a third, but Goof Son doesn't want to trade Payton's draft picks.

 

[1bigfan13]

You watch the throws Allen and Mahomes make and you realize Dak isn't even in the same zip code.

I hate when fans do this. The only other QB who's even in the same zip code as those two when it comes to throws is Aaron Rodgers. And he's slipping due to age.

Having a QB with an arm like Mahomes and Allen isn't a prerequisite for winning a Super Bowl. More than anything it takes having a heady QB who limits mistakes and makes the big throws when called upon.

If you look at the Super Bowl winning QBs over the last 30 years, it's probably 25-5 in favor of guys like E. Manning, Brady, Warner, P. Manning, etc. over big arm QBs like Favre, Rodgers, and Allen.

 

[1bigfan13]

they did .. but rag arm Rush under threw it

Was that on the final INT?

 

[Simpleton]

I hate when fans do this. The only other QB who's even in the same zip code as those two when it comes to throws is Aaron Rodgers. And he's slipping due to age.

Having a QB with an arm like Mahomes and Allen isn't a prerequisite for winning a Super Bowl. More than anything it takes having a heady QB who limits mistakes and makes the big throws when called upon.

If you look at the Super Bowl winning QBs over the last 30 years, it's probably 25-5 in favor of guys like E. Manning, Brady, Warner, P. Manning, etc. over big arm QBs like Favre, Rodgers, and Allen.

Not only that but I'd argue that at least about half of the last 20 Super Bowl winners have been nothing but caretakers/bus drivers.

Dilfer, Brady at least twice in the 2000's, Roethlisberger twice, Eli twice, Wilson, Flacco, Peyton with the Broncos, that's 11 of the Super Bowl winners over the last 20 years.

So it's not even about strong arm/massive arm talent vs. not, you have a great chance of winning as long as you have a QB who can play complementary football and do just enough situationally. Assuming obviously that you have a great defense, running game, etc.

Now, plenty of those winners were going up against non-elite or even average QB's themselves (i.e. Kerry Collins with the Giants, Delhomme with the Panters, McNabb, Kurt Warner in his later years, Cam Newton, Kaepernick, etc.), so it might not turn out as well if you trot out a 2012 Joe Flacco or 2013 Russell Wilson against Josh Allen or Mahomes playing at the level they're playing at right now, but the point remains.

 

[Cotton]

Did we win?

 

[Tony D]

ESPN was showing how one play wrecked the Cowboys defense. Same okay on the AJ Brown TD and a late game big gain

RPO pistol with AJ Brown in motion toward RB side. We are in man coverage and just too much trash for the DB to get through to cover AJ Brown. Parsons stays home because he’s responsible for the RPO action.

Eagles do something different if we were in zone, but I wonder if Parsons is able to blow up AJ Brown as he’s coming across the middle behind the LOS with an RPO — shouldn’t be pass interference.

Quinn will clean that up and be ready for that in December. And they won't have a short field 3 times.

I trust our D to stop anybody when they have to go 75, 80 yards. We have to be better at stopping the run. Eagles have a unique run game. We get anybody in obvious passing downs its game over.

I'll say it again and that goes for the Bills and the Chiefs. Limit turnovers and penalties we can beat anybody.

Last night was really 4 turnovers with the one on downs, 3 gave them a short field.

And 10 penalties to 2. 10 is on us, a couple were questionable, but the Eagles only committed 2 all game? GTFO

 

[UncleMilti]

If Jerry was smart, he’d be looking to bolster the offense and defense with another couple difference makers with every team in the NFC appearing very beatable at any given time.

 

[Simpleton]

Quinn will clean that up and be ready for that in December. And they won't have a short field 3 times.

I trust our D to stop anybody when they have to go 75, 80 yards. We have to be better at stopping the run. Eagles have a unique run game. We get anybody in obvious passing downs its game over.

I'll say it again and that goes for the Bills and the Chiefs. Limit turnovers and penalties we can beat anybody.

Last night was really 4 turnovers with the one on downs, 3 gave them a short field.

And 10 penalties to 2. 10 is on us, a couple were questionable, but the Eagles only committed 2 all game? GTFO

Yea they had everything go their way and won by 9 points at home against a backup QB, that's a narrow needle to thread again, especially in Dallas, and especially considering they've been at full health basically all season.

Last night they had a few guys go down here and there and Collinsworth was losing his mind over it, imagine what'll happen if they start losing guys for any length of time.

And aside from the 3/4 turnovers, let's not forget the idiotic first down we gifted them on 4th and 4 when they were almost certainly kicking a FG. Free 4 points right there.

 

[UncleMilti]

Quinn will clean that up and be ready for that in December. And they won't have a short field 3 times.

I trust our D to stop anybody when they have to go 75, 80 yards. We have to be better at stopping the run. Eagles have a unique run game. We get anybody in obvious passing downs its game over.

I'll say it again and that goes for the Bills and the Chiefs. Limit turnovers and penalties we can beat anybody.

Last night was really 4 turnovers with the one on downs, 3 gave them a short field.

And 10 penalties to 2. 10 is on us, a couple were questionable, but the Eagles only committed 2 all game? GTFO

Our D has never been good when they’ve been on the bad side of TOP.
A few more decent drives by Rush and the D probably holds the Eagles to a FG on that last drive.
But it’s moot anyways…it’s one game, but it also shows we are still in dire need of a stout NT and a true #1 WR.

 

[Simpleton]

If Jerry was smart, he’d be looking to bolster the offense and defense with another couple difference makers with every team in the NFC appearing very beatable at any given time.

Yea, Derrick Brown, he'd be worth the price.

Look around the NFC, you have a bunch of statue QB's with questionable OL's who rely on the run to keep them out of downs/distances that put the QB in danger in the 49ers, Rams, Vikings, Bucs and Packers.

Then you have two teams basically running college offenses who rely on their QB's to run 10 times a game because they don't trust them to run a traditional passing game in the Eagles and Cardinals.

The conference is weak and we have a monster pass rush, the only thing that can derail us is if we let teams stay in neutral down/distances by running the ball and tiring out our defense.

A monster like Brown in the middle would put that to rest and force these teams into clear passing situations where our edge rushers can tee off.

Oh, and Brown can pass rush too.

 

[bbgun]

A monster like Brown in the middle would put that to rest and force these teams into clear passing situations where our edge rushers can tee off.

Oh, and Brown can pass rush too.

Seems like a guy you'd rather build around than trade. McCaffrey, by contrast, is oft-injured and makes a lot of money, making him expendable. Too bad the Skins are in the East, otherwise I'd inquire about Payne or Allen.

 

[Simpleton]

Seems like a guy you'd rather build around than trade. McCaffrey, by contrast, is oft-injured and makes a lot of money, making him expendable. Too bad the Skins are in the East, otherwise I'd inquire about Payne or Allen.

Yea you never know, they may be in asset accumulation/strategizing for a QB-mode, so if we offer a 1, or even a 1 and change they could bite.

 

[p1_]

If you had told me we would go 4-1 with Rush, I would’ve said you’re nuts. And it took a melt down of TO’s to lose the 5th game. Well done Rush. He came through for us.

 

[p1_]