2016 Draft Weekend Chatter Thread...
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Sure they could have, they just didn't want to give up their third.
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Ogbah, Robinson, Reed, or Spence and this draft is an A+ for me
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Jerruh: Happy with our pick. WE do believe it addresses what we can be on offense and help defense. Not a pure offensive pick, but can add 12 plays to the offensive side of the ball per game. Don't feel we lacked a punch in running game with McFadden. This pick gives us a unique strength at the position.
Stephen: We sat there an dliked what we had with Z, but open to trade. Had an interesting offer, but not worth th erisk to move down. Really convicted that Z is the guy that did the most for our footblal team.
Jerry: Our potential trade partner is good friends with Stephen and they'd tell us who they would draft as part of it. We decided to keep the pick and the player they were coming up to pick was Z, so we wouldn't have made the trade anyway.
Garrett: Only comment I have is that he's a damn good football player. Evaluation first is of the player - somewhat unique combo as an inside runner, reeciver, blocker, sturdy guy. Outstanding person and character. Great football character. Fits the profile for what we have drafted in the past. Strong support for Z in this building to draft. Liked him, but we wanted to play the draft strategy and see if we could drop and still get him.
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Garrett: A player like this allows you to play a certain style and it helps other offensive players. You get more plays on offense, less plays on defense and defense plays at higher level. Other offensive players get more looks. We like what we have with McFadden and Morris.
Jerruh: He's young and has availability. had an intense career at Ohio St, but relatively young and hasn't has an inordinate amount of hits and affords him good amount of punishment. For RB, he can be in the prime of his career and hit ground running, literally. RB doesn't need the year to acclimate that other positions do. Has value as impact player and salary cap concerns. You assume a healthy Romo, healhty Dez and with that OL, this is a defensive draft still.
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Stephen: It says a lot. It was tough to let Murray leave and we have opinion at the end of the day that RBs that have wear and tear (referring to Demarco Murray) and the value isn't there. We believe the RBs best years are in the first 5 years. With Emmitt, there are exceptions as he had 10 great years. But generally best is to get them right out of college. With Z, he's a great running back but also well rounded with catching out of the backfield, protecting Tony Romo and finally got our hands around that Z's special guy.
Stephen: We sat there an dliked what we had with Z, but open to trade. Had an interesting offer, but not worth th erisk to move down. Really convicted that Z is the guy that did the most for our footblal team.
Jerry: Our potential trade partner is good friends with Stephen and they'd tell us who they would draft as part of it. We decided to keep the pick and the player they were coming up to pick was Z, so we wouldn't have made the trade anyway.
Garrett: Only comment I have is that he's a damn good football player. Evaluation first is of the player - somewhat unique combo as an inside runner, reeciver, blocker, sturdy guy. Outstanding person and character. Great football character. Fits the profile for what we have drafted in the past. Strong support for Z in this building to draft. Liked him, but we wanted to play the draft strategy and see if we could drop and still get him.
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Garrett: A player like this allows you to play a certain style and it helps other offensive players. You get more plays on offense, less plays on defense and defense plays at higher level. Other offensive players get more looks. We like what we have with McFadden and Morris.
Jerruh: He's young and has availability. had an intense career at Ohio St, but relatively young and hasn't has an inordinate amount of hits and affords him good amount of punishment. For RB, he can be in the prime of his career and hit ground running, literally. RB doesn't need the year to acclimate that other positions do. Has value as impact player and salary cap concerns. You assume a healthy Romo, healhty Dez and with that OL, this is a defensive draft still.
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Stephen: It says a lot. It was tough to let Murray leave and we have opinion at the end of the day that RBs that have wear and tear (referring to Demarco Murray) and the value isn't there. We believe the RBs best years are in the first 5 years. With Emmitt, there are exceptions as he had 10 great years. But generally best is to get them right out of college. With Z, he's a great running back but also well rounded with catching out of the backfield, protecting Tony Romo and finally got our hands around that Z's special guy.
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Q: Reference to The Triplets and 90s
Jerruh: It's convenient and pleasant to make that analogy. But this is today and NFL's a passing league. It wasn't hard to see, touch and feel what it means to have a dominant rushing game. I do think of balance with The 90s Triplets and that OL that we had inherited when we first got here. Point is, different rules, different game, but if balance still compromises defense, this is an analogy of what we can expect. For a big man, Z has real burst. A real gear when he sees a hole. With lateral ability. Those combinations will complement what we're all about. It'll remind you of what we did with Demarco Murray. With Jason Garrett, he said that in the 90s, when Garrett was going in as QB, Garrett would look over to Emmitt and say to get ready cuz you're gonna get lots of passes out the backfield. Can say the same with Romo to Z
Jerruh: Stephen's had a long night on the phone talking trade.
Stephen: Made a big push to get back into 1st but didn't get it. We worked hard and had a player in mind that we liked, but didn't work. A little disappointing but sometimes that'll work out for the best.
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Stephen: That's the hard part. If we moved up, we'd leave a couple good players on the board that can help us now to win. Was the player worth two players? On our board, we still have several players we're looking for.
Jerruh: For the record, yes, we are talking about Paxton Lynch.
~laughter~
Stephen: About mid-1st round, that's when we started to think Paxton would be a possibility.
Stephen: QB is still something we're always looking at. With Paxton gone, we'll re-evaluate with remaining QB talent. We're not out, but we're not necessarily in. Won't rule out anything.
Q: Have to draft defense at 34?
Stephen: Not totally, but want to help out defense. But even with RB, it helps out defense. We'd all like to improve on our defense. We're getting injured players back like Romo, Dez, Dunbar. Z is big. We're not necessarily focused on defense - could be several different positions.
Garrett: Our OL has allowed us to play a certain style. We have made significant investments in our personnel. Thought we did well running last year and drafting Z enhances that style of play. Compared to Emmitt, Emitt's great ability was durability year in and year out. Z is built like that to help control the game. helps the defense and the football team.
Jerruh: It's convenient and pleasant to make that analogy. But this is today and NFL's a passing league. It wasn't hard to see, touch and feel what it means to have a dominant rushing game. I do think of balance with The 90s Triplets and that OL that we had inherited when we first got here. Point is, different rules, different game, but if balance still compromises defense, this is an analogy of what we can expect. For a big man, Z has real burst. A real gear when he sees a hole. With lateral ability. Those combinations will complement what we're all about. It'll remind you of what we did with Demarco Murray. With Jason Garrett, he said that in the 90s, when Garrett was going in as QB, Garrett would look over to Emmitt and say to get ready cuz you're gonna get lots of passes out the backfield. Can say the same with Romo to Z
Jerruh: Stephen's had a long night on the phone talking trade.
Stephen: Made a big push to get back into 1st but didn't get it. We worked hard and had a player in mind that we liked, but didn't work. A little disappointing but sometimes that'll work out for the best.
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Stephen: That's the hard part. If we moved up, we'd leave a couple good players on the board that can help us now to win. Was the player worth two players? On our board, we still have several players we're looking for.
Jerruh: For the record, yes, we are talking about Paxton Lynch.
~laughter~
Stephen: About mid-1st round, that's when we started to think Paxton would be a possibility.
Stephen: QB is still something we're always looking at. With Paxton gone, we'll re-evaluate with remaining QB talent. We're not out, but we're not necessarily in. Won't rule out anything.
Q: Have to draft defense at 34?
Stephen: Not totally, but want to help out defense. But even with RB, it helps out defense. We'd all like to improve on our defense. We're getting injured players back like Romo, Dez, Dunbar. Z is big. We're not necessarily focused on defense - could be several different positions.
Garrett: Our OL has allowed us to play a certain style. We have made significant investments in our personnel. Thought we did well running last year and drafting Z enhances that style of play. Compared to Emmitt, Emitt's great ability was durability year in and year out. Z is built like that to help control the game. helps the defense and the football team.
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It's interesting. Although it seems like after every draft we hear the Cowboys claim that someone else wanted the player they got with in the next few picks. Sometimes I wonder if they just throw that stuff in to try and sell the fans that a pick wasn't a reach. But it could also be that the Ravens for example wanted Elliott for obvious reasons.
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Yep heard that too. Also mentioned how he basically never fumbles. Which one probably the most frustrating thing with Murray.
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Jerruh: Fair to say that we've been grading and bringing together scouts and coaches. I personally started eval process not thinking we'd pick a RB first. But I'm relunctanct to say this, but Z had our highest grade even though we needed other positions. During Senior Bowl, coaches said to me that although we're in good shape at RB, but Z could make the biggest impact. Coaches said Z will fit in really well. Drafting RB would help other positions, too. Z can be a foundation player and Garrett is fond of using the term 'foundation' player.
Q: What's a foundation player?
Garrett: Cornerstone player you wanna build your team around. Talented, good football character, can handle significant role and burden on team. We have it at OL, TE, WR and now at RB. The kinds of guys you want to build your team around. Z is one of those guys.
Garrett: Ramsey's a great player. Had chance to work him out and see him at Combine. Outstanding player. Physically, how he plays and impact on the game. Damn good player. Definitely in discussion and with other guys. Highly regarded by us. We just felt that Z can help the team the most right now.
Q: RB competition?
Garrett: We're excited in group we have now. McFadden blah blah blah...Alfred Morris blah blah blah...Dunbar blah blah blah...each has different style and contributes in different ways. We'll get to camp and see how it crystallizes.
Q: What's a foundation player?
Garrett: Cornerstone player you wanna build your team around. Talented, good football character, can handle significant role and burden on team. We have it at OL, TE, WR and now at RB. The kinds of guys you want to build your team around. Z is one of those guys.
Garrett: Ramsey's a great player. Had chance to work him out and see him at Combine. Outstanding player. Physically, how he plays and impact on the game. Damn good player. Definitely in discussion and with other guys. Highly regarded by us. We just felt that Z can help the team the most right now.
Q: RB competition?
Garrett: We're excited in group we have now. McFadden blah blah blah...Alfred Morris blah blah blah...Dunbar blah blah blah...each has different style and contributes in different ways. We'll get to camp and see how it crystallizes.
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NFL radio was talking today that the Ravens were interested in him. Callers were wondering if he'd make it to the Giants. They said if he made it past Dallas, the he could end up in Baltimore or even Cleveland. The whole Ohio thing. The thinking was Ozzie and the Ravens brain trust were in love with Elliott, and originally thought he'd be there for him. But the last couple days, were thinking Dallas wasn't as in love with Ramsey as people thought. Looks like they were right about that, any way. They were saying Baltimores two biggest targets were Elliott and Tunsil. Guess they were wrong there. At least about Tunsil anyway. Or maybe he was, until that video surfaced today. That's too bad for him.
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You got the jist, but to clarify, I fixed an important word mistype "Jerry: ...the player they were coming up to pick was Z, so we wouldn't have made the trade anyway.
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Cost us the GB playoff game, IMO.
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The Ravens aren't a team that strikes me as willing to give up much to move from 6 to 4. So if that really was the offer it was probably best to not do it. You're not likely to rip them off in a trade.
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Incredible that less than a year ago this brain trust was convinced this offense would function just fine with a a jackleg like Randle. And now they go up and tell us how we needed to use a #4 overall because this back will let us play a certain style.
I love the player and I know he'll help us, but what an about-face for this ridiculous front office.
I love the player and I know he'll help us, but what an about-face for this ridiculous front office.
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