Random Politics Stuff Thread...

boozeman said:

What about the same in far right ideology?

Today’s MAGA (R) is not like the Bushes nor Reagan. It is just as extreme and insane.

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What besides possibly abortion is so objectionable?

You aren't buying the garbage about Nazis or any of that nonsense, are you?

Chocolate Lab said:

What besides possibly abortion is so objectionable?

You aren't buying the garbage about Nazis or any of that nonsense, are you?

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Well think about the man giving birth thing you just talked about. It used to be nonsense as well.

boozeman said:

It is just as extreme and insane.

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The fuck it is.

boozeman said:

Well think about the man giving birth thing you just talked about. It used to be nonsense as well.

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Huh?

I meant what is the equivalent from the right that you were referring to.

boozeman said:

Well think about the man giving birth thing you just talked about. It used to be nonsense as well.

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Like I said, the center line has moved.

DAMN!

party of tolerance

bbgun said:

party of tolerance

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People are bizarre. I don't understand this mentality at all.

bbgun said:

party of tolerance

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I bet her pussy stinks.

Cujo said:

I bet her pussy stinks.

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And hairy pits.

Pretty interesting take on what has infected my Republican Party over the past 8 years:

One presentation of the rise of Donald Trump focuses on the anti-establishment backlash that the Republican Party experienced during the presidency of Barack Obama. The tea party was one manifestation, and Trump’s appearance as a presidential candidate in 2015 did attempt to leverage that frustration with establishment Washington.

More important, though, was the overlap between that anti-establishment sentiment and the embrace of outright false claims about political subjects. Part of the frustration with Republican leaders was that their actions and rhetoric were increasingly divergent from the rhetoric on Fox News and on fringier upstarts like Breitbart. Trump was both unattached to D.C. respectability and immersed in the fringe-right vernacular, and that’s what he presented to Republican primary voters.

This was the origin of the idea that Trump speaks frankly while others don’t. It wasn’t that he was honest; far from it. It was that he said the things that his supporters were hearing from (dishonest) actors elsewhere because he didn’t care about being seen as dishonest. His supporters saw this as unusual honesty, when it was in fact the opposite.

Trump’s dishonesty has been relentless ever since, often infecting his allies and his party. But he retains a perception of honesty and frankness among his supporters because they dislike and distrust those pointing out his dishonesty — his opponents, the media, etc. Trump is granted the benefit of the doubt, despite being perhaps uniquely undeserving of it.

No offense my man, but that wasn't interesting at all. It was just more "Orange Man Bad."

Where was that from? Wherever it was, it's just more establishment uniparty propaganda.

I hate to tell them, but most people in this country aren't for their unending wars, trillion-dollar deficits, sexualizing kids. racial division, open borders, and increasing government interference in their lives. That isn't Trump lying about the "virtuous" other side, that's just a fact.

Chocolate Lab said:

No offense my man, but that wasn't interesting at all. It was just more "Orange Man Bad."

Where was that from? Wherever it was, it's just more establishment uniparty propaganda.

I hate to tell them, but most people in this country aren't for their unending wars, trillion-dollar deficits, sexualizing kids. racial division, open borders, and increasing government interference in their lives. That isn't Trump lying about the "virtuous" other side, that's just a fact.

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Big facts. And anyone that tries to deny it are delusional

If you believe Jan 6th was worse than 9/11, you're a goddamn moron.

Cujo said:

If you believe Jan 6th was worse than 9/11, you're a goddamn moron.

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I love the dude in the red tie. He is 100% correct.

Cotton said:

I love the dude in the red tie. He is 100% correct.

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Patrick Bet-David. One of the most interesting channels I've found on Youtube in the last year. He was born in Iran and raised in the U.S. He's a conservative but frequently has guests with opposing views and it usually remains pretty civil.

Don't forget at 1:37 he says Jan 6 "was more severe than the attack on Pearl Harbor."

What an incredible piece of shit Steve Schmidt is.

Irving Cowboy said:

Pretty interesting take on what has infected my Republican Party over the past 8 years:

One presentation of the rise of Donald Trump focuses on the anti-establishment backlash that the Republican Party experienced during the presidency of Barack Obama. The tea party was one manifestation, and Trump’s appearance as a presidential candidate in 2015 did attempt to leverage that frustration with establishment Washington.

More important, though, was the overlap between that anti-establishment sentiment and the embrace of outright false claims about political subjects. Part of the frustration with Republican leaders was that their actions and rhetoric were increasingly divergent from the rhetoric on Fox News and on fringier upstarts like Breitbart. Trump was both unattached to D.C. respectability and immersed in the fringe-right vernacular, and that’s what he presented to Republican primary voters.

This was the origin of the idea that Trump speaks frankly while others don’t. It wasn’t that he was honest; far from it. It was that he said the things that his supporters were hearing from (dishonest) actors elsewhere because he didn’t care about being seen as dishonest. His supporters saw this as unusual honesty, when it was in fact the opposite.

Trump’s dishonesty has been relentless ever since, often infecting his allies and his party. But he retains a perception of honesty and frankness among his supporters because they dislike and distrust those pointing out his dishonesty — his opponents, the media, etc. Trump is granted the benefit of the doubt, despite being perhaps uniquely undeserving of it.

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The problem with this "take," is that it one-sidedly ignores the "embrace of outright false claims," from the establishment while blaming the anti-establishment for such an embrace.

Which is why your - and everyone else's - slandering of Trump is worthless nonsense.

People don't like Trump. They just pick him because they know they are getting a level of bullshit either way. His lies aren't being "excused." It's everyone else's lies that are being rejected.

"His supporters dislike and distrust those pointing out his dishonesty." No shit?? Maybe because they are hypocrites and worse liars than he is? There isn't a mainstream news organization or journalism outfit that tells the truth, period.

Remember how they said he wasn't telling the truth about Covid? Whoops.

No response, just an emoji. Yeah, I know you have no rebuttal.