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To me, you either sign Dak or Lamb not both. It will cripple the cap the way this front office plays it.

The reasoning behind this is that if you are paying your QB 60 mil per year, an super expensive WR is unnecessary. A QB paid that much is ELITE and doesn't need ELITE paid targets.

If you keep Lamb then Lance has a true elite WR to throw to.

So, do you pay a fake elite QB or a real elite WR?
 
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Bill Shatner said:
To me, you either sign Dak or Lamb not both. It will cripple the cap the way this front office plays it.

The reasoning behind this is that if you are paying your QB 60 mil per year, an super expensive WR is unnecessary. A QB paid that much is ELITE and doesn't need ELITE paid targets.

If you keep Lamb then Lance has a true elite WR to throw to.

So, do you pay a fake elite QB or a real elite WR?
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I disagree. Elite QBs are allowed to have an elite WR. Now you might not be able to have multiple high paid weapons but the idea that you can't have Payton Manning and Marvin Harrison or Roethlisberger and Antonion Brown is just wrong.
 
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Cowboysrock55 said:
I disagree. Elite QBs are allowed to have an elite WR. Now you might not be able to have multiple high paid weapons but the idea that you can't have Payton Manning and Marvin Harrison or Roethlisberger and Antonion Brown is just wrong.
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Dak Prescott is nowhere near those two QBs in talent, first of all.

And I guess you can pay your fake elite QB 60 and your true elite WR 30 something, but then all of a sudden their is no money for the OL. I wonder if Joe Burrow would rather have an elite OL or elite targets? Let's ask his injury history.
 
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Cowboysrock55 said:
Kind of defeats your point. More talented QBs needed elite WRs. Mahomes doesn't need Kelce, except he does.
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Kelce isn't paid anywhere near elite. He takes less to win.

It is basically destroys your chance for championships when you have to pay fakes like Dak Prescott 60 million per year and the elite WR wants 30 something as well. You think Tyler Smith won't want paid too? All pro already. I'd rather invest in the OL than give Dak fucking Prescott anywhere near 60.
 
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Kelce isn't paid anywhere near elite. He takes less to win.

It is basically destroys your chance for championships when you have to pay fakes like Dak Prescott 60 million per year and the elite WR wants 30 something as well. You think Tyler Smith won't want paid too? All pro already. I'd rather invest in the OL than give Dak fucking Prescott anywhere near 60.
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Well that's because the cap has gone up. QBs aren't getting sixty yet and most WRs aren't getting 30 either. And 3 years from now those numbers will be a bargain. Just like 4 years ago 40 mil for a QB was unsustainable. Now 40 mil is an average starting QB.

But what I would do is surround an elite, paid WR, with young dudes on the cheap. Sort of why now is the best time to draft a WR. You'll want your second and third guys on rookie contracts. The same way you don't want 3 OLineman all being paid elite money at once. You want these things spaced out.
 
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Cowboysrock55 said:
Well that's because the cap has gone up. QBs aren't getting sixty yet and most WRs aren't getting 30 either. And 3 years from now those numbers will be a bargain. Just like 4 years ago 40 mil for a QB was unsustainable. Now 40 mil is an average starting QB.

But what I would do is surround an elite, paid WR, with young dudes on the cheap. Sort of why now is the best time to draft a WR. You'll want your second and third guys on rookie contracts. The same way you don't want 3 OLineman all being paid elite money at once. You want these things spaced out.
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I can agree with that.

I think the bottom line is that we are truly fucked if we pay Dak elite money again.
 
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Bill Shatner said:
I can agree with that.

I think the bottom line is that we are truly fucked if we pay Dak elite money again.
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Yeah I'm not as anti Dak as most but it does seem like a massive advantage to have a 5 mil QB on a rookie deal as opposed to any QB not named Mahomes on a 60 mil deal. Eventually NFL teams are going to have to adjust. I just don't think it makes sense in terms of winning right now in the NFL. QBs are disproportionately getting too much on their second contracts.

Then again, I don't see the system changing any time soon.
 
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Bill Shatner said:
To me, you either sign Dak or Lamb not both. It will cripple the cap the way this front office plays it.

The reasoning behind this is that if you are paying your QB 60 mil per year, an super expensive WR is unnecessary. A QB paid that much is ELITE and doesn't need ELITE paid targets.

If you keep Lamb then Lance has a true elite WR to throw to.

So, do you pay a fake elite QB or a real elite WR?
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You know something?

I think I have achieved nirvana (and yes I am fucking stoned so piss off).

I don‘t care. Let that whole shit headed perverted family run my beloved into the ground. Fuck it.
 
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Bill Shatner said:
To me, you either sign Dak or Lamb not both. It will cripple the cap the way this front office plays it.

The reasoning behind this is that if you are paying your QB 60 mil per year, an super expensive WR is unnecessary. A QB paid that much is ELITE and doesn't need ELITE paid targets.

If you keep Lamb then Lance has a true elite WR to throw to.

So, do you pay a fake elite QB or a real elite WR?
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If you pay Dak, you have to pay Lamb. The reality is that, regardless of the money he's making, he needs an elite WR. You can bemoan that Dak is overpaid and try to fit a square peg in a round hole, or deal with reality. And reality is, he needs Lamb or a player like Lamb.

The other reality of course is that the cap is tighter than it needs to be because of how cheap the owner is. They can afford both and still pay an offensive line if they want to.
 
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Genghis Khan said:
If you pay Dak, you have to pay Lamb. The reality is that, regardless of the money he's making, he needs an elite WR. You can bemoan that Dak is overpaid and try to fit a square peg in a round hole, or deal with reality. And reality is, he needs Lamb or a player like Lamb.

The other reality of course is that the cap is tighter than it needs to be because of how cheap the owner is. They can afford both and still pay an offensive line if they want to.
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Facts.
 
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Genghis Khan said:
If you pay Dak, you have to pay Lamb. The reality is that, regardless of the money he's making, he needs an elite WR. You can bemoan that Dak is overpaid and try to fit a square peg in a round hole, or deal with reality. And reality is, he needs Lamb or a player like Lamb.

The other reality of course is that the cap is tighter than it needs to be because of how cheap the owner is. They can afford both and still pay an offensive line if they want to.
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I still think if there was one of our "stars" to not pay, it was Diggs. Not sure why they did that except that they're always going to pay their own because to them it shows everyone what great drafters they are.
 
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Diggs isn't really even a great CB if the INTs aren't there.

He's a good player, but is he a shutdown corner? No.

He shoulda been traded.
 
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Smitty said:
Diggs isn't really even a great CB if the INTs aren't there.

He's a good player, but is he a shutdown corner? No.

He shoulda been traded.
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Hot take. He is prone to getting burned at times.
I worry about his recovery time from the ACL and diminished performance.
 
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