2024 Cowboys Free Agency Thread

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Cowboysrock55 said:
Yeah I mean it exists but not in the condition that the Cowboys portray. Throwing a bunch of shit against the wall like most of these teams makes no sense. For example I wasn't even sure I wanted Biadasz back because I want to get better at center. Yet to another team he was worth paying a 8 figure salary annually. Well if you do that he is your starter. Do you think he is going to be worth that starting spot? Or is he going to be cut in the next couple of years?

I'm willing to bet he is cut over the next couple years. So was that worth it?
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A couple of years is a real GM's shelf-life.
 
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Rev said:
There are ways to get around the cap. When Zach Moss gets 4 and they say that's too expensive it tells me that they aren't even interested in trying.
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Absolutely, you either want Moss or you don't. If you want him that is nothing to pay. If you don't want him, then we wouldn't be talking about the money.
 
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I don't mind sitting out the first day or two of FA, and frankly it's probably advised unless you're a complete shit team who is just trying to work their way back to respectability. In that case you need to overpay average to good talent as if they're good to great talent just to get them onboard.

The real problem is we all know they aren't actually going to do anything of note even after sitting out those 1-2 days.
 
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boozeman said:
Goof Son has a primitive point. Some of these players are getting pieces of pie way bigger than they should be getting.
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Deep down, you know there’s some merit to the strategy. But they take it too far and miss out on potential difference-makers.

I liken this part of Free Agency to the start of the Hunger Games, a blood bath feeding frenzy around a cornucopia.

Those who participate had better come prepared to pay the price and gratuitously overspend, at least on the surface.

Only the best GM’s can navigate that, and Stephen’s the little redhead runt from District 10 who needs to turn around and sprint into the woods.

It’s all about the guaranteed monies and offsets allowed for some of these deals. That’s how the 49ers, Eagles, and Chiefs can keep making deals every year, they know how to build in end dates both they and the player can deal with. Even the Browns are managing somehow (it helps when you get starting WR’s traded to you for a pittance).
 
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Simpleton said:
I don't mind sitting out the first day or two of FA, and frankly it's probably advised unless you're a complete shit team who is just trying to work their way back to respectability. In that case you need to overpay average to good talent as if they're good to great talent just to get them onboard.

The real problem is we all know they aren't actually going to do anything of note even after sitting out those 1-2 days.
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Agreed. The faux outrage is annoying. We're not going to make any big splashes and I'm not mad about it. Sure you can add a final piece to the puzzle now and then through FA, but it's not the way to build an NFL team.

Are the Eagles that much better with the overrated Saquon over Swift. The Packers with Jacobs over Jones? Those moves seriously don't move the needle that much.

Now losing our center, Armstrong and Pollard? Not shocking news and who cares? We're drafting a C who will start for us this upcoming season. We'll draft a RB who will be a part of our backfield. We'll probably sign a lower tier RB who is going to be decent. I was thinking Gus Edwards, but he's gone already, but that type of guy.

We'll sign some after day 2 guys who will provide depth.

The problem is we need to draft guys this year who will help in 2024. None of this 2023 draft shit. Hopefully, some of the 2023 guys can step up as well.
 
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ravidubey said:
Deep down, you know there’s some merit to the strategy. But they take it too far and miss out on potential difference-makers.

I liken this part of Free Agency to the start of the Hunger Games, a blood bath feeding frenzy around a cornucopia.

Those who participate had better come prepared to pay the price and gratuitously overspend, at least on the surface.

Only the best GM’s can navigate that, and Stephen’s the little redhead runt from District 10 who needs to turn around and sprint into the woods.

It’s all about the guaranteed monies and offsets allowed for some of these deals. That’s how the 49ers, Eagles, and Chiefs can keep making deals every year, they know how to build in end dates both they and the player can deal with. Even the Browns are managing somehow (it helps when you get starting WR’s traded to you for a pittance).
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The point is to win a Super Bowl, not construct the most competitive roster the most cheaply.

Of course there's some merit to the strategy, but only so far as saving money on one player allows you to have more money under the cap to go get other good players so you can win the Super Bowl.

They seem to have lost the plot. They are constantly in a state of penny pinching and there's never translation of the savings into a difference maker to get over the hump.

Their strategy is far too tied up in plugging holes through the draft instead of drafting elite talent through the draft.

I get that building through the draft is the best way, but they are still looking at it wrong. They look at team building and say, we are going to use the draft to get our keystone players, so we will eschew free agency, go into the draft needing a RB, center, LB, and DE, and we will get those pieces there, and by drafting well, convert them into our cornerstones.

That's all wrong and it's why they are constantly chasing their holes.

You SHOULD get your cornerstone pieces in the draft, but you should have zero holes when you enter the draft. That way you just draft the best players and then the cream will rise to the top. Instead, they are trying to stretch for great players at positions of need.

If they go into the draft already with Derrick Henry and Tyler Biadascz and Tyron Smith on the roster, they can take EITHER a running back or a center or a LT or even a WR if a WR is the best player.

Instead, they are going to have to come away with OL help or RB help. And if they don't get it in the first round, they have to do it in the second round, or they have no chance to compete. They won't have the luxury of adding a high end cornerback who slips, and then parlaying that guy into a future star, because they NEED to have the functional center or RB immediately.

It's fucking stupid. If you can get a RB on a 1 or 2 year deal it should be done already. Frankly I don't even think the Biadascz contract should have prevented them from doing it. The overpay is worth not NEEDING a center.
 
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Smitty said:
The point is to win a Super Bowl, not construct the most competitive roster the most cheaply.

Of course there's some merit to the strategy, but only so far as saving money on one player allows you to have more money under the cap to go get other good players so you can win the Super Bowl.

They seem to have lost the plot. They are constantly in a state of penny pinching and there's never translation of the savings into a difference maker to get over the hump.

Their strategy is far too tied up in plugging holes through the draft instead of drafting elite talent through the draft.

I get that building through the draft is the best way, but they are still looking at it wrong. They look at team building and say, we are going to use the draft to get our keystone players, so we will eschew free agency, go into the draft needing a RB, center, LB, and DE, and we will get those pieces there, and by drafting well, convert them into our cornerstones.

That's all wrong and it's why they are constantly chasing their holes.

You SHOULD get your cornerstone pieces in the draft, but you should have zero holes when you enter the draft. That way you just draft the best players and then the cream will rise to the top. Instead, they are trying to stretch for great players at positions of need.

If they go into the draft already with Derrick Henry and Tyler Biadascz and Tyron Smith on the roster, they can take EITHER a running back or a center or a LT or even a WR if a WR is the best player.

Instead, they are going to have to come away with OL help or RB help. And if they don't get it in the first round, they have to do it in the second round, or they have no chance to compete. They won't have the luxury of adding a high end cornerback who slips, and then parlaying that guy into a future star, because they NEED to have the functional center or RB immediately.

It's fucking stupid. If you can get a RB on a 1 or 2 year deal it should be done already. Frankly I don't even think the Biadascz contract should have prevented them from doing it. The overpay is worth not NEEDING a center.
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And, we have to add WR to the need list as well, which will become even greater once Gallup is released...I mean, "traded".
 
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Smitty said:
The point is to win a Super Bowl, not construct the most competitive roster the most cheaply.

Of course there's some merit to the strategy, but only so far as saving money on one player allows you to have more money under the cap to go get other good players so you can win the Super Bowl.

They seem to have lost the plot. They are constantly in a state of penny pinching and there's never translation of the savings into a difference maker to get over the hump.

Their strategy is far too tied up in plugging holes through the draft instead of drafting elite talent through the draft.

I get that building through the draft is the best way, but they are still looking at it wrong. They look at team building and say, we are going to use the draft to get our keystone players, so we will eschew free agency, go into the draft needing a RB, center, LB, and DE, and we will get those pieces there, and by drafting well, convert them into our cornerstones.

That's all wrong and it's why they are constantly chasing their holes.

You SHOULD get your cornerstone pieces in the draft, but you should have zero holes when you enter the draft. That way you just draft the best players and then the cream will rise to the top. Instead, they are trying to stretch for great players at positions of need.

If they go into the draft already with Derrick Henry and Tyler Biadascz and Tyron Smith on the roster, they can take EITHER a running back or a center or a LT or even a WR if a WR is the best player.

Instead, they are going to have to come away with OL help or RB help. And if they don't get it in the first round, they have to do it in the second round, or they have no chance to compete. They won't have the luxury of adding a high end cornerback who slips, and then parlaying that guy into a future star, because they NEED to have the functional center or RB immediately.

It's fucking stupid. If you can get a RB on a 1 or 2 year deal it should be done already. Frankly I don't even think the Biadascz contract should have prevented them from doing it. The overpay is worth not NEEDING a center.
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Stuck in short term “we’re only a couple of backups away from a trophy” thinking.

Same strategy destroyed the 1990’s team and undermined any hope Tony Romo had post 2007.
 
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boozeman said:
Well, it is like I have been saying all along.

All it takes is for Goof Son to pull a lever and get a player for 6.5 for a year. It is not impossible.

But it is amazing how he has used the pie game to con so many imbeciles.
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