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How many draft choices has Cooks fetched over the years?
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I mean I'm glad to hear this. Let's hope it works but I appreciate that he clearly is amped about it. I have no doubt he will put a lot of thought into this.
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you know, when Im getting my massage, waiting for that happy ending... Im going over plays.
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If they trade 2 mid round picks I hope one would be in a future draft.
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A bunch but I'd rather give up a 4 and 5 for Cooks and have Houston eat some of the salary than sign Beckham for a bunch of money.
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A lot of people on Twitter and reddit think these quotes are idiotic too.
I'm basically ambivalent on it, but anyone who thinks that a coach with McCarthy's experience and track record is doomed to fail based on a few quotes in February or March is the real idiot.
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They're also idiots if they think that a guy as pass-happy as he was in Green Bay is suddenly going to turn into Bill Parcells, running the ball 35 times a game for 3.7 YPC no matter what.
I think he had to twist Moore's arm to get him to run as much as he did last year, which was a pretty solid balance overall in my opinion, and that he got tired of having to deal with that when you factor in the various philosophical differences/Garrett stench that lingered on Moore's offensive design.
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I just don't want to give up 2 picks for one player given how much we lean on the draft to improve the team.
A fourth and fifth are not throwaway picks. We tend to do well in those rounds (Ferguson and Bland came from those rounds last year).
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A lot of people are being obtuse about what he said, especially when it's taken out of context. I believe the gist of what he was trying to say is his quote below. People are acting like he's saying they're going to throw 20 times a game. He's talking about situation football.
“Your quarterback has to be able to go throw the ball 45 times in a game and win,” McCarthy said. “Can’t win a championship in this league if your guy can’t have the capabilities of doing that, I believe. But having them do that every week? It’s fun. It’s fun as hell to call those plays, but that’s not the best thing for your team. Time of possession goes to hell, risk for turnover goes up.
“We’ve got to secure the ball better. We need to be a top five team (in the league). And that’s a skill. … And that comes from the lead guy in the room. You got to emphasize that. That’s gotta be an everyday deal.”
“Your quarterback has to be able to go throw the ball 45 times in a game and win,” McCarthy said. “Can’t win a championship in this league if your guy can’t have the capabilities of doing that, I believe. But having them do that every week? It’s fun. It’s fun as hell to call those plays, but that’s not the best thing for your team. Time of possession goes to hell, risk for turnover goes up.
“We’ve got to secure the ball better. We need to be a top five team (in the league). And that’s a skill. … And that comes from the lead guy in the room. You got to emphasize that. That’s gotta be an everyday deal.”
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Yeah with this team that may be a starting corner and safety right there on cheap deals for 3 or 4 years.
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He is absolutely right. I jist hope we have a better plan for the run game then to just smash the ball up the middle every first down. You have to be creative about it.
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Cowboys' Mike McCarthy says 'new voice' calling plays will help Dak Prescott
6:40 PM ET
INDIANAPOLIS -- For seven years, Kellen Moore was the most constant voice in Dak Prescott's ear either as a Dallas Cowboys teammate, quarterbacks coach or offensive coordinator.
In 2023, Mike McCarthy will take that role over, as the head coach will be calling plays for the first time in his tenure with the Cowboys.
Prescott tied for the league lead in interceptions with a career-high 15 despite missing five games because of a fractured thumb, and McCarthy said he believes a "new voice" will serve the quarterback well.
"We all can use a sense of motivation and challenge and so forth. This is a new challenge for him," McCarthy said from the NFL scouting combine Wednesday. "These are his words: He's very excited about it and I just think, like anything, he's had a chance to go from the different variations of the offense that was in place. He's getting ready to take another turn as far as a variation of what we're getting ready to do. We're going to build it off what he has established.
"My decision to stay with his concepts and so forth is still intact because I wouldn't have did what I did in 2020 if I still didn't believe in him. And we obviously as an organization, myself included, feel very strongly about him as our future, and we will definitely build this thing around him."
From 2019 to '22, Moore called plays and directed some of the best statistical offenses in team history while seeing Prescott set a team record for touchdown passes in a season in 2021. But not long after the playoff loss to the San Francisco 49ers in January, McCarthy made a number of changes to his offensive coaching staff.
Moore and quarterbacks coach Doug Nussmeier left for jobs with the Los Angeles Chargers, and offensive line coach Joe Philbin and running backs coach Skip Peete were told they would not return to the team with their contracts expiring.
Brian Schottenheimer replaced Moore as offensive coordinator, and Mike Solari was named offensive line coach. McCarthy promoted assistant offensive line coach Jeff Blasko to run game coordinator/running backs coach and assistant Scott Tolzien to quarterbacks coach.
But the biggest difference will be McCarthy's impact on the offense. He called the plays during most of his tenure with the Green Bay Packers, and after retaking those duties in 2015, he said he would always call plays as a head coach.
When he joined the Cowboys in 2020, he retained Moore because he did not want to disrupt Prescott's development. McCarthy will be the first Cowboys head coach to call plays since Jason Garrett in 2012.
"I think the last three years, we grew into the offense that I wanted it to be as far as the run-pass combination," McCarthy said. "And I just feel like we'll have another variation, and hopefully we can take another step."
McCarthy praised Moore, but he also acknowledged differences in approach based on their different levels of experience.
"Kellen wants to light the scoreboard up, but I want to run the damn ball so I can rest my defense," McCarthy said. "I think when you're a coordinator, you're in charge of the offense. Being a head coach and being a playcaller, you're a little more in tune with [everything]. I don't have the desire to be the No. 1 offense in the league. I want to be the No. 1 team in the league with a number of wins and a championship. And if we've got to give up some production and take care of the ball better to get that, then that's what we'll do, because we have a really good defense."
McCarthy said the offense figures to change anywhere from 30% to 35% but the language will remain the same that it has been since Moore started as the playcaller in 2019.
"We're not throwing everything away," he said. "We have a lot to build off of. Last year was the most complementary football that we've played with our run-pass [balance]. We're looking to take the next step. Being more balanced and more complementary football is what I'm really looking forward to."
But McCarthy is happy to be going back to his roots and implementing changes to the offense. Most of the offensive staff is having shorter than usual visits to Indianapolis for the combine in order to put together the new-look offense.
In fact, McCarthy flew to Indianapolis Wednesday morning and was back in Texas hours later.
"This," he said, "is the most fun I've had since I've been in Dallas."
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Todd ArcherESPN Staff Writer
INDIANAPOLIS -- For seven years, Kellen Moore was the most constant voice in Dak Prescott's ear either as a Dallas Cowboys teammate, quarterbacks coach or offensive coordinator.
In 2023, Mike McCarthy will take that role over, as the head coach will be calling plays for the first time in his tenure with the Cowboys.
Prescott tied for the league lead in interceptions with a career-high 15 despite missing five games because of a fractured thumb, and McCarthy said he believes a "new voice" will serve the quarterback well.
"We all can use a sense of motivation and challenge and so forth. This is a new challenge for him," McCarthy said from the NFL scouting combine Wednesday. "These are his words: He's very excited about it and I just think, like anything, he's had a chance to go from the different variations of the offense that was in place. He's getting ready to take another turn as far as a variation of what we're getting ready to do. We're going to build it off what he has established.
"My decision to stay with his concepts and so forth is still intact because I wouldn't have did what I did in 2020 if I still didn't believe in him. And we obviously as an organization, myself included, feel very strongly about him as our future, and we will definitely build this thing around him."
From 2019 to '22, Moore called plays and directed some of the best statistical offenses in team history while seeing Prescott set a team record for touchdown passes in a season in 2021. But not long after the playoff loss to the San Francisco 49ers in January, McCarthy made a number of changes to his offensive coaching staff.
Moore and quarterbacks coach Doug Nussmeier left for jobs with the Los Angeles Chargers, and offensive line coach Joe Philbin and running backs coach Skip Peete were told they would not return to the team with their contracts expiring.
Brian Schottenheimer replaced Moore as offensive coordinator, and Mike Solari was named offensive line coach. McCarthy promoted assistant offensive line coach Jeff Blasko to run game coordinator/running backs coach and assistant Scott Tolzien to quarterbacks coach.
But the biggest difference will be McCarthy's impact on the offense. He called the plays during most of his tenure with the Green Bay Packers, and after retaking those duties in 2015, he said he would always call plays as a head coach.
When he joined the Cowboys in 2020, he retained Moore because he did not want to disrupt Prescott's development. McCarthy will be the first Cowboys head coach to call plays since Jason Garrett in 2012.
"I think the last three years, we grew into the offense that I wanted it to be as far as the run-pass combination," McCarthy said. "And I just feel like we'll have another variation, and hopefully we can take another step."
McCarthy praised Moore, but he also acknowledged differences in approach based on their different levels of experience.
"Kellen wants to light the scoreboard up, but I want to run the damn ball so I can rest my defense," McCarthy said. "I think when you're a coordinator, you're in charge of the offense. Being a head coach and being a playcaller, you're a little more in tune with [everything]. I don't have the desire to be the No. 1 offense in the league. I want to be the No. 1 team in the league with a number of wins and a championship. And if we've got to give up some production and take care of the ball better to get that, then that's what we'll do, because we have a really good defense."
McCarthy said the offense figures to change anywhere from 30% to 35% but the language will remain the same that it has been since Moore started as the playcaller in 2019.
"We're not throwing everything away," he said. "We have a lot to build off of. Last year was the most complementary football that we've played with our run-pass [balance]. We're looking to take the next step. Being more balanced and more complementary football is what I'm really looking forward to."
But McCarthy is happy to be going back to his roots and implementing changes to the offense. Most of the offensive staff is having shorter than usual visits to Indianapolis for the combine in order to put together the new-look offense.
In fact, McCarthy flew to Indianapolis Wednesday morning and was back in Texas hours later.
"This," he said, "is the most fun I've had since I've been in Dallas."
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That is what the ravens have done almost since their inception. Add a decent offense to that and you could really have something.
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All these reporters showing why they're reporters.
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Saw this on Reddit, thought it was worth reposting. Someone posted the following tweet from Sturm.
Then someone responded with the true numbers (assuming accuracy). Based on age and cap hit to his new team, as well injury history (or lack thereof) and consistency of performance, Evans might be the best target depending on what the trade compensation might be.
Reddit post below:
These numbers he's mentioning are their cap hits if they remain on their current teams; they would all be lower for us if acquired by trade. Here are their base salaries. The only part I'm not certain about is whether or not the option or roster bonuses would hit our cap (I assume they would), so I'll list them just in case they do. Signing bonuses and restructure figures do not, though. Also included the dead money impact for their current teams to illustrate that a Diggs trade is not happening this offseason.
Then someone responded with the true numbers (assuming accuracy). Based on age and cap hit to his new team, as well injury history (or lack thereof) and consistency of performance, Evans might be the best target depending on what the trade compensation might be.
Reddit post below:
These numbers he's mentioning are their cap hits if they remain on their current teams; they would all be lower for us if acquired by trade. Here are their base salaries. The only part I'm not certain about is whether or not the option or roster bonuses would hit our cap (I assume they would), so I'll list them just in case they do. Signing bonuses and restructure figures do not, though. Also included the dead money impact for their current teams to illustrate that a Diggs trade is not happening this offseason.
- Brandin Cooks
- 2023: $18M base, $352,932 roster bonus
- 2024: $13M base, $3.5M roster bonus
- Dead money: Texans clear $10 million in cap space by trading ($16M dead money)
- Stefon Diggs
- 2023: $7.91M base, $255K roster, $3.2M option
- 2024: $18.5M base, $255K roster, $3.2M option
- 2025: $18M base, $255K roster, $3.2M option
- 2026: $19.092M base, $255K roster, $3.2M option
- 2027: $14.495M base, $255K roster, $3.2M option
- Dead money: Bills LOSE $17.285 million in cap space by trading ($37.5+M dead money)
- Additional note: The Bills are currently sitting at $18 million OVER the cap
- Mike Evans
- 2023: $13M base, $1.5M roster bonus
- Remaining years are all void years
- Dead money: Bucs clear $2.32M in cap space by trading ($21.4ishM in dead money)
- DeAndre Hopkins
- 2023: $19.45M base, $2.25M option
- 2024: $14.915M base, $2.25M option
- Dead money: Cardinals clear $8.15M in cap space by trading ($22.6M in dead money)
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If it were me, and Stephen finally decided to clean the cobwebs out of his pocket and was willing to add a cap hit in the $15-$20M/year range over the next few years, I'd ignore WR and spend that on someone like Javon Hargrave.
Hell, we might even be able to get two guys for about $10M/year each like David Onyemata and Dre'Mont Jones.
Then I'd address WR in the 1st most likely.
Hell, we might even be able to get two guys for about $10M/year each like David Onyemata and Dre'Mont Jones.
Then I'd address WR in the 1st most likely.
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Most of those base salaries could be converted to bonus to really lower the cap hit. So I wouldn't worry too much.
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