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Has anyone ever shown actual quotes where Trump was calling for violence on Jan 6? Or leading up to it? All I’ve seen is where people are trying to twist words around saying ‘Well, this is probably what he meant.’
He got them all riled up, doncha know.
 

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Trump never encouraged violence? Seriously? The same guy who told people at his rallies to beat up people who didn't agree with him, who told cops not to be so nice when putting suspects in a car, who couldn't help but think he would enhance his tough-guy bullshit persona by having people thrown out of his way so he could go stand in front of a church to hold a book upside down? Really?
I need citations for all of this. The church photo-op story has already been wildly debunked, so that's off that table. When did Trump tell people to "beat up people who didn't agree with him"?
 

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When did Trump tell people to "beat up people who didn't agree with him"?
he may have said something like that about lefties who invaded his rallies, but those were trespassers looking for trouble, not people with a "different opinion"
 

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Has anyone ever shown actual quotes where Trump was calling for violence on Jan 6? Or leading up to it? All I’ve seen is where people are trying to twist words around saying ‘Well, this is probably what he meant.’
"It'll be wild" isn't enough for you? :lol

But I guess that was another dog whistle.
 

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he may have said something like that about lefties who invaded his rallies, but those were trespassers looking for trouble, not people with a "different opinion"
But, even then, did he tell people to "beat them up"?
 

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Has anyone ever shown actual quotes where Trump was calling for violence on Jan 6? Or leading up to it? All I’ve seen is where people are trying to twist words around saying ‘Well, this is probably what he meant.’
Just like the "good people on both sides lie"
 

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Or twitter before Musk bought it letting SCOTUS judges address be posted and them having to have SS protection back when RvW was leaked
 

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If I tell you to go and punch someone in the face and you don't do it, then what am I liable for? Now if you do it, both of us would be liable but maybe me more so for instigating it.


Trump never encouraged violence? Seriously? The same guy who told people at his rallies to beat up people who didn't agree with him, who told cops not to be so nice when putting suspects in a car, who couldn't help but think he would enhance his tough-guy bullshit persona by having people thrown out of his way so he could go stand in front of a church to hold a book upside down? Really?


The guy's a fucking moron. Despite him being a moron on EVERY LEVEL as a human being, he knew what he was doing that day. And he only called off the dogs after his own family begged and pleaded with him to do it, and after a majority of the damage had been done. Yeah... he's quite the leader.
Superb use of the quote function.

I would only ask a few questions in follow up when you’re speaking about incitement.

Should Bernie Sanders be charged because a supporter of his shoots up a baseball field full of republicans?

Should people like Schumer, Waters, and Pelosi be charged when a liberal brings a duffel bag full of weapons to Brett Kavanaugh’s home to kill him and his family?

Trump has said things off script that are dumb and unnecessary. When he’s at a rally and says something like “We used to handle those(hecklers) differently, we used to drag them out and teach them a lesson.”, is that encouraging his supporters to drag them outside and beat them, or is he speaking to people like everyone speaks to each other? It may be a throw away comment meant to make people laugh, but tell us how many people have been brutally beaten at a Trump rally for heckling.

Trump is a lot of things, but people say he’s a moron. I just don’t see that. You don’t go through life being a moron and end up where he is. Biden isn’t a moron either. Neither is Obama, neither is Hillary. They’re smart people with ideas that are bad and they believe things that mostly aren’t so.

People act like political rhetoric has been ramped up since 2016 and they blame Trump. I seem to remember Biden going to a black church and telling black people that republicans want to put them back in chains. Or telling old people that republicans want to throw them off a cliff.

Trump is polarizing and most either love him or hate him. People who love him excuse a lot, people who hate him believe the worst about him.

An example in your post is all the BS about the church photo OP that was debunked by people who were there. The “suckers and losers” comment that was debunked was a rallying cry in 2020 which never happened. He does and says plenty of shut to be outraged about without latching on to made up BS.
 

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The same guy who told people at his rallies to beat up people who didn't agree with him, who told cops not to be so nice when putting suspects in a car, who couldn't help but think he would enhance his tough-guy bullshit persona by having people thrown out of his way so he could go stand in front of a church to hold a book upside down? Really?
I think this is misquoting what was said but I could be wrong? Do you have the specific quotes you're talking about? There is a big difference between telling someone to do something and talking about things that have happened. I'm honestly curious as I don't listen to every Trump speech nor do I support him as our next President. Hell I don't really listen to many if any Trump speeches. It's also difficult because people and media love to twist words to make it sound like one thing when it was actually another. Like you may see a tweet or a headline that says "Trump encourages supporters to beat up Democrats" but then you actually read the quote and that's not really at all what was said.
 

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Superb use of the quote function.

I would only ask a few questions in follow up when you’re speaking about incitement.

Should Bernie Sanders be charged because a supporter of his shoots up a baseball field full of republicans?

Should people like Schumer, Waters, and Pelosi be charged when a liberal brings a duffel bag full of weapons to Brett Kavanaugh’s home to kill him and his family?

Trump has said things off script that are dumb and unnecessary. When he’s at a rally and says something like “We used to handle those(hecklers) differently, we used to drag them out and teach them a lesson.”, is that encouraging his supporters to drag them outside and beat them, or is he speaking to people like everyone speaks to each other? It may be a throw away comment meant to make people laugh, but tell us how many people have been brutally beaten at a Trump rally for heckling.

Trump is a lot of things, but people say he’s a moron. I just don’t see that. You don’t go through life being a moron and end up where he is. Biden isn’t a moron either. Neither is Obama, neither is Hillary. They’re smart people with ideas that are bad and they believe things that mostly aren’t so.

People act like political rhetoric has been ramped up since 2016 and they blame Trump. I seem to remember Biden going to a black church and telling black people that republicans want to put them back in chains. Or telling old people that republicans want to throw them off a cliff.

Trump is polarizing and most either love him or hate him. People who love him excuse a lot, people who hate him believe the worst about him.

An example in your post is all the BS about the church photo OP that was debunked by people who were there. The “suckers and losers” comment that was debunked was a rallying cry in 2020 which never happened. He does and says plenty of shut to be outraged about without latching on to made up BS.
Spot on.
 

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I think this is misquoting what was said but I could be wrong? Do you have the specific quotes you're talking about? There is a big difference between telling someone to do something and talking about things that have happened. I'm honestly curious as I don't listen to every Trump speech nor do I support him as our next President. Hell I don't really listen to many if any Trump speeches. It's also difficult because people and media love to twist words to make it sound like one thing when it was actually another. Like you may see a tweet or a headline that says "Trump encourages supporters to beat up Democrats" but then you actually read the quote and that's not really at all what was said.
It has been said, but the media really are the enemy of the people.
 

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Didn't you hear her? She has a masters degRRREEEE!
Not my problem.

I think somewhere we lost value in the role of teachers. I can’t pinpoint it really, but oh I dunno sometime around the mid-2010s maybe?

I believe that it is a “noble” profession that is now just something gross.
 

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Not my problem.

I think somewhere we lost value in the role of teachers. I can’t pinpoint it really, but oh I dunno sometime around the mid-2010s maybe?

I believe that it is a “noble” profession that is now just something gross.
Alot of the problem is the sheer amount of administrators all making more than teachers. That is why the big push for school choice toget kids out of shitty run govt schools
 

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Alot of the problem is the sheer amount of administrators all making more than teachers. That is why the big push for school choice toget kids out of shitty run govt schools
The government needs to get the hell out of the education business.
 
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