2022 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

[Simpleton]

I would understand if Elliott had burst and balance. He really doesn’t have either and just chugs for whatever is there. He can’t create yards anymore.

This is what happens with elite RB's, after enough pounding and physical punishment their balance starts to go and they end up kind of looking like the Tin Man out there at some point.

The burst going is obvious too.

If you look closely you can see it kind of starting to happen with Derrick Henry and I've even seen it a bit out of Lamar Jackson compared to past years.

Elliott had awesome balance early in his career but he got worn down quickly getting fed 300+ touches several years in a row, that's what happens.

It's why I keep saying Hurts is going to have such a short shelf life, this guy is about to put up about 250 carries on the season which is insane for a QB.

 

[boozeman]

They finally got Pollard more touches last night and it actually seemed to open things up a little bit for Elliott once the OL got into a bit of a groove.

Elliott is massively overpaid, we know this, but he's a good short yardage/goal line back. He's been money pretty much all year in those situations in some big spots, it's not his fault that the coaching staff overuses him.

I'd be fine bringing him back next year if he takes a reduced salary down to like a $5 million cap hit because there actually is a very specific, valuable role he could play.

Then draft someone like Jahmyr Gibbs in the 2nd, let him and Pollard pop off explosive plays, and bring in Elliott as the hammer for one last year.

Elliott has to go out the door before drafting a back high makes sense. It is just as likely they don’t sign Pollard.

 

[Simpleton]

Elliott has to go out the door before drafting a back high makes sense. It is just as likely they don’t sign Pollard.

Yea because the coaching staff is obtuse when it comes to Elliott, there's no reason we couldn't get value out of a Pollard/Elliott/Gibbs trio considering how dangerous Pollard/Gibbs could be in the passing game.

I'd also be fine just cutting Elliott, drafting a guy like Gibbs or Charbonnet and being done with it, but I do think a top coaching staff could fit in roles for all three.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Elliott has to go out the door before drafting a back high makes sense. It is just as likely they don’t sign Pollard.

You're right, that will be interesting to see. I think a core part of their plan is letting FAs go so they can gain those comp picks. Stephen might think Pollard was a fourth, so we'll just use another fourth on another RB... maybe even the pick we get for Tony.

I don't guess it matters that much as long as his role is greatly reduced and we stop giving out touches based on contract size.

 

[p1_]

 

[bbgun]

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Anyone have any idea why we don't even try to get Turpin the ball on offense? In camp it looked like his hands were fine.

At least put him out wide sometimes to stretch the defense, even if you don't throw it to him.

 

[boozeman]

Anyone have any idea why we don't even try to get Turpin the ball on offense? In camp it looked like his hands were fine.

At least put him out wide sometimes to stretch the defense, even if you don't throw it to him.

He did get a target, gosh. Only so many footballs to go around.

 

[p1_]

He did get a target, gosh. Only so many footballs to go around.

I missed that somehow.

 

[boozeman]

 

[boozeman]

 

[Rev]

He can stay on the sideline.

 

[Simpleton]

Tyler has played well all things considered but as I was watching him get whipped a few times by Brandon Graham, combined with McGovern's generally average play, I was starting to wonder if it'd be a good idea to plug Tyron back in at LT for what would probably only be 2-3 regular season games and the playoffs.

This obviously assumes that Tyron is actually medically cleared, which I'm a bit skeptical of, but unless Tyler just starts playing lights out over the next 6 weeks or so I think you might want to experiment with Tyron at LT and Tyler at LG (considering his strength right now is his run blocking) and see how it looks for a game or two.

You could always go right back to Tyler at LT/McGovern at LG, but if Tyron is theoretically somewhere near 100% we're only talking about a handful of games that he'd have to stay healthy for and it could give us a boost down the stretch and into the playoffs.

 

[Simpleton]

He can stay on the sideline.

Hope he enjoys that 1 year, $5 million prove it deal he's gonna get in March.

 

[Rev]

Tyler has played well all things considered but as I was watching him get whipped a few times by Brandon Graham, combined with McGovern's generally average play, I was starting to wonder if it'd be a good idea to plug Tyron back in at LT for what would probably only be 2-3 regular season games and the playoffs.

This obviously assumes that Tyron is actually medically cleared, which I'm a bit skeptical of, but unless Tyler just starts playing lights out over the next 6 weeks or so I think you might want to experiment with Tyron at LT and Tyler at LG (considering his strength right now is his run blocking) and see how it looks for a game or two.

You could always go right back to Tyler at LT/McGovern at LG, but if Tyron is theoretically somewhere near 100% we're only talking about a handful of games that he'd have to stay healthy for and it could give us a boost down the stretch and into the playoffs.

Jerry always undersells the medical stuff which I think he does on purpose for our idiot fan base. He was talking about end of the year so I'm going to go with my original thought which was he is done for his career.

 

[Simpleton]

Jerry always underbelly the medical stuff which I think he does on purpose for our idiot fan base. He was talking about end of the year so I'm going to go with my original thought which was he is done for his career.

Probably at least 50/50.

 

[mcnuttz]

He can stay on the sideline.

I like Schultzy, but Ferguson and Hendershot offer much better value.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Tyler has played well all things considered but as I was watching him get whipped a few times by Brandon Graham, combined with McGovern's generally average play, I was starting to wonder if it'd be a good idea to plug Tyron back in at LT for what would probably only be 2-3 regular season games and the playoffs.

This obviously assumes that Tyron is actually medically cleared, which I'm a bit skeptical of, but unless Tyler just starts playing lights out over the next 6 weeks or so I think you might want to experiment with Tyron at LT and Tyler at LG (considering his strength right now is his run blocking) and see how it looks for a game or two.

You could always go right back to Tyler at LT/McGovern at LG, but if Tyron is theoretically somewhere near 100% we're only talking about a handful of games that he'd have to stay healthy for and it could give us a boost down the stretch and into the playoffs.

Maybe, but Tyron hasn't been the old Tyron for a while now. I doubt he would have shut out Graham, either.

Plus, in six weeks Tyler will probably be better than he is right now.

 

[Texas Ace]

Hope he enjoys that 1 year, $5 million prove it deal he's gonna get in March.

Why would we even give him that?

Let him walk.

 

[Simpleton]

Why would we even give him that?

Let him walk.

I'm not saying I would but I'm sure the team will.

I'd rather use the money elsewhere, not block Ferguson who I think is more or less a similar quality of player right now, and I'd rather not gum up the possibility of going TE high in the draft next year if someone like Mayer falls.