2021 Season | Week 10 | Thursday Night Gameday Chatter Thread | Ravens @ Dolphins | 11/11/2021

[Cotton]

Clay Allison could be in consideration for an HOF'er too.

No.

 

[Smitty]

I wish he would come back. I would like to chatter with him about some stuff. He has removed himself from my social media, so it might be nice to reacquaint.

I mean, I feel like he would absolutely not fit in anymore, whereas I feel like sbk would. If Carp wants to say the things here he says on twitter it would be about 10 seconds before he and you ended up in a massive fight.

 

[Smitty]

Wow. That's crazy. I never would have expected that from him.

I always liked Carp. It's too bad he lost his damn mind.

I don't want to go too personal here, I know we are not supposed to really share from other social media stuff where our personal info is more obvious, but I think Carp's said some stuff about being diagnosed bipolar (which for all I know may be the issue with someone like sbk as well).

 

[data]

@bbgun where are the screenshots

 

[Simpleton]

It was a thread that was talking about immigration and such. Sbk back in the Bush presidency days tended to be antagonistic to Republicans because he hated Bush, but by 2008 or so/the Obama and Tea Party era his views had more aligned with where Republicans had come around to. He was a marginally big Ron Paul guy. As you can see with his Zone avatar, where he adopted the Avatar of "Bill the Butcher" from Gangs of New York (and I think he probably does see himself as aligning with that character on some level), he's relatively pro-America and was anti-immigration.

EZ ended up in a relationship or married to a Mexican woman. Whereas they had once been very close, I think the relationship between EZ and sbk broke down because EZ's significant other saw while the board page was open some of the very harsh things sbk had to say about immigration - but again, things that, I'd warrant, most of us on here right now probably agree with on principal (ie, these people should not be here illegally and immigration should be a very measured approach and not a free-for-all).

They got into a big fight about it and at some point, in expressing how disgusted he was illegal immigration, he said something along the lines of how he'd curb stomp a mexican to keep them out of this country if they didn't belong here.

It's the kind of comment that really can't be defended and of course set EZ off completely because he felt the implication was that sbk would essentially kill his wife, which for all I know may have been the exact implication sbk was intending.

But again, it was essentially a political debate that got personal and I understand the genesis of being anti-immigration to the point where you feel like the left is trying to overthrow the country and you must respond with violence. Iamtdg here says frequently how he feels like it's coming to civil war. I think in a more asshole-ish way, that's pretty much what sbk was saying with that.

The ironic thing is that the overriding point of Gangs of New York is that the groups we divide ourselves into are fleeting and the very people Bill the Butcher was railing against had assimilated a generation or two later and had became the ones railing against a new group, so on and so forth.

 

[Cotton]

Wow. That's crazy. I never would have expected that from him.

I always liked Carp. It's too bad he lost his damn mind.

https://twitter.com/carphalen5150

Read for yourself.

 

[Smitty]

The ironic thing is that the overriding point of Gangs of New York is that the groups we divide ourselves into are fleeting and the very people Bill the Butcher was railing against had assimilated a generation or two later and had became the ones railing against a new group, so on and so forth.

I'm sure that's not really lost on him or any of us, but the point remains.

 

[Cotton]

I mean, I feel like he would absolutely not fit in anymore, whereas I feel like sbk would. If Carp wants to say the things here he says on twitter it would be about 10 seconds before he and you ended up in a massive fight.

And, somehow I feel like it would end bad for him.

 

[bbgun]

@bbgun where are the screenshots

it probably predates me

strange that he hates Republicans and Mexicans. most libs want to erase the Southern border entirely.

 

[Smitty]

https://twitter.com/carphalen5150

Read for yourself.

Within two seconds: The judge in the Rittenhouse case "loves teenage killings," and a few tweets down accuses him of attending KKK meetings.

~closes window to preserve sanity~

 

[Smitty]

And, somehow I feel like it would end bad for him.

Perhaps. I'm not really advocating we reach out to him and bring him back.

More saying it's too bad.

 

[Simpleton]

I'm sure that's not really lost on him or any of us, but the point remains.

It's probably lost on him.

At any rate, even if he isn't truly racist the story you told perfectly encapsulates him. When he feels like he's right on something (which is about 99% of the time) he feels entitled to saying any sort of demented shit to anybody who disagrees.

That's why he shouldn't be here.

 

[data]

Wonder if he ever made it out of his moms basement

 

[Simpleton]

Oh, and even when he's completely wrong (Dak) he morphs the conversation into some weird shtick sideshow.

It's just exhausting from top to bottom.

 

[Cotton]

It was a thread that was talking about immigration and such. Sbk back in the Bush presidency days tended to be antagonistic to Republicans because he hated Bush, but by 2008 or so/the Obama and Tea Party era his views had more aligned with where Republicans had come around to. He was a marginally big Ron Paul guy. As you can see with his Zone avatar, where he adopted the Avatar of "Bill the Butcher" from Gangs of New York (and I think he probably does see himself as aligning with that character on some level), he's relatively pro-America and was anti-immigration.

EZ ended up in a relationship or married to a Mexican woman. Whereas they had once been very close, I think the relationship between EZ and sbk broke down because EZ's significant other saw while the board page was open some of the very harsh things sbk had to say about immigration - but again, things that, I'd warrant, most of us on here right now probably agree with on principal (ie, these people should not be here illegally and immigration should be a very measured approach and not a free-for-all).

They got into a big fight about it and at some point, in expressing how disgusted he was illegal immigration, he said something along the lines of how he'd curb stomp a mexican to keep them out of this country if they didn't belong here.

It's the kind of comment that really can't be defended and of course set EZ off completely because he felt the implication was that sbk would essentially kill his wife, which for all I know may have been the exact implication sbk was intending.

But again, it was essentially a political debate that got personal and I understand the genesis of being anti-immigration to the point where you feel like the left is trying to overthrow the country and you must respond with violence. Iamtdg here says frequently how he feels like it's coming to civil war. I think in a more asshole-ish way, that's pretty much what sbk was saying with that.

It felt so weird when it happened. I almost thought it was a joke like the EZ/Carp joke fight that ended up in "Abracadabra, dipshits" quote.

 

[NoDak]

https://twitter.com/carphalen5150

Read for yourself.

Jesus. Read less than a minute and don't need to see any more.

Seeing where he thinks the prosecutor in the Rittenhouse case is good, and is a compelling, great public speaker is more than enough to see he's lost his fucking mind.

 

[Cotton]

Jesus. Read less than a minute and don't need to see any more.

Seeing where he things the prosecutor in the Rittenhouse case is good, and is a compelling, great public speaker is more than enough to see he's lost his fucking mind.

Sad to see, to be honest. I have witnessed it with my cousin, and it was equally unnerving.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

He didn't use to, but he does now, incessantly. Perhaps why he stopped posting here: the guy would not last ten seconds reading literally anything in our politics section.

You thought Bipo was bad with his leftist trollings, Carp tweets basically nothing but MSNBC talking points slamming the right and all it's members - gun owners, white people, religious types, etc.

Yeah seems like most Liberal posters don't stay here long or stay out of the politics section. Politics drove Jiggy batshit crazy.

 

[Angrymesscan]

it probably predates me

strange that he hates Republicans and Mexicans. most libs want to erase the Southern border entirely.

Think you're confused, Carp is the R turned D and SBK is the beaner-hater, two different guys

 

[armadillooutlaw]

It was a thread that was talking about immigration and such. Sbk back in the Bush presidency days tended to be antagonistic to Republicans because he hated Bush, but by 2008 or so/the Obama and Tea Party era his views had more aligned with where Republicans had come around to. He was a marginally big Ron Paul guy. As you can see with his Zone avatar, where he adopted the Avatar of "Bill the Butcher" from Gangs of New York (and I think he probably does see himself as aligning with that character on some level), he's relatively pro-America and was anti-immigration.

EZ ended up in a relationship or married to a Mexican woman. Whereas they had once been very close, I think the relationship between EZ and sbk broke down because EZ's significant other saw while the board page was open some of the very harsh things sbk had to say about immigration - but again, things that, I'd warrant, most of us on here right now probably agree with on principal (ie, these people should not be here illegally and immigration should be a very measured approach and not a free-for-all).

They got into a big fight about it and at some point, in expressing how disgusted he was illegal immigration, he said something along the lines of how he'd curb stomp a mexican to keep them out of this country if they didn't belong here.

It's the kind of comment that really can't be defended and of course set EZ off completely because he felt the implication was that sbk would essentially kill his wife, which for all I know may have been the exact implication sbk was intending.

But again, it was essentially a political debate that got personal and I understand the genesis of being anti-immigration to the point where you feel like the left is trying to overthrow the country and you must respond with violence. Iamtdg here says frequently how he feels like it's coming to civil war. I think in a more asshole-ish way, that's pretty much what sbk was saying with that.

So pretty much a political debate taken too far and he said something very nasty about Mexicans. I get why he wouldn't be wanted here.
Big difference between opposing what is (now) basically open borders and having a problem with Mexicans in general.