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Pretty much in the order they are listed.
Pretty much in the order they are listed.
So, swap CBs and LBs for TEs and Safeties. Or win the Superbowl with CBs and LBs still on rookie deals.
chart doesn’t even add up to the same percentage. SB teams add up to ~78% and league average is like 85%
Great players win football games.So, swap CBs and LBs for TEs and Safeties. Or win the Superbowl with CBs and LBs still on rookie deals.
Hmmm, this chart really tells me nothing.
Cant argue with this and well I think a shame if he gets in the HoF.Gore is a guy that kind of bugs me. No way in hell he deserves to be the 3rd all time leading rusher.
He's played 16 seasons and he's failed to get even 1000 yards 7 times.
He's gotten over 1500 yards exactly once.
He's been even over 1200 yards only 3 times in 16 years.
By comparison, Zeke for example already has a 1500 yard season and has 3 1200 yard seasons in 5 years.
In other words, Zeke has as many 1500 and 1200 yard seasons in 5 years as Gore had in 16.
Yeah the durability is nice, but even with that he's been over 4 ypc only once in the past 6 seasons. So he's not been particularly effective in a long time, he's just hanging on to hang on. Yet in those 6 seasons by my quick math he's added like almost 5000 career yards to his total.
No way in hell he deserves to be the 3rd all time rusher, or anywhere close.
I don't think there's any season I'd have ever considered him among the top RBs, other than maybe his 1 career year.
And without those final nearly useless 6 seasons he'd be around 20th all time with guys like Cory Dillon and Steven Jackson, which is around where he should be.
He's extremely overrated and his nuthuggers in the media are annoying.
Yeah it's sad because those are very good RBs and the guy deserves to be talked about as a really good RB when you consider where and how he came into the league. But it's ruined by the idiots that push him as a sure fire hall of famer and all time great type.And without those final nearly useless 6 seasons he'd be around 20th all time with guys like Cory Dillon and Steven Jackson, which is around where he should be.
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Gore deserves to be #3 all time - he earned it. However, being #3 on this list doesn’t necessarily equate to being a HOFer.Gore is a guy that kind of bugs me. No way in hell he deserves to be the 3rd all time leading rusher.
Gore deserves to be #3 all time - he earned it.
I don’t think Edgerrin James should’ve gotten in, but I’d choose Edge over Gore
Does Emmitt deserve to be over Walter Payton then? If you stop counting Emmitts yards at his lackluster 2002 season...Nah, you earn it by being good/great most of your career.
For almost half of his career Gore wasn't even good, let alone great.
That's not earning it.
It's funny because if you look at stats Emmitt was better than Payton early in his career. But Payton had some killer years later in his career. You'll never see a RB do that 10 or 11 years into his career ever again. Just too physical of a game these days for RBs to do that. AP was the closest thing to a physical marvel who could still look dominant 8 years into a rushing career. But even he has clung on way too long.Does Emmitt deserve to be over Walter Payton then? If you stop counting Emmitts yards at his lackluster 2002 season...
Also since Walter Payton’s first couple seasons only had 14 games
Does Emmitt deserve to be over Walter Payton then? If you stop counting Emmitts yards at his lackluster 2002 season...
Also since Walter Payton’s first couple seasons only had 14 games
We’re discussing different points. You said Gore doesn’t deserve to be #3 on the all time rushing list, insinuating at some point his rushing stats should’ve stopped being counted. That’s why I said if you discount the subpar seasons, then Emmitt would finish #2 on the all time list.Nah, you're talking about debating whether Emmitt's the best ever vs top 2 or 3 or whatever. That's a big difference between that and whether Gore is top 3 vs top 20 or 25.
Emmitt was still with his original team and coming off a thousand yard season when he passed Payton. Also, without Emmitt's couple of hanging on years he's still top 2 or 3. He doesn't fall all the way down to around 20th. Most great players have a couple of hanging on years at the end. Gore's is extreme and as a result his counting stats look way way better than he actually was.
As for the 14 games, that's something everyone deals with. Payton I think only had 3 years of 14 game seasons? That would be a 6 game advantage for emmitt. Not a big deal overall.
I think the bottom line in this comparison is, you can bring all of those things into an emmitt/Payton debate and that's fine. You can do the same with Payton vs Jim Brown.
But none of that changes the fact that emmitt belongs in that conversation. He did more than enough in his prime years that legitimizes him.
Gore on the other hand doesn't belong anywhere near a top 3 or top 5 or top 10 conversation. It's laughable.
Emmitt's numbers are commensurate with his legacy, even if you dock him a point or two vs Payton (or Brown, or Sanders) for his hanger-on couple of years. Gore has the numbers but he simply doesn't belong anywhere near that conversation.
I would agree with this.Gore earned being #3
You said Gore doesn’t deserve to be #3 on the all time rushing list, insinuating at some point his rushing stats should’ve stopped being counted.
But it does.It shouldn’t necessarily equate into GOAT or HOF discussions.