2021 NFL Draft Thread

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This is exactly why you keep Dak at all costs.

 

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[Genghis Khan]

Why on God's green earth would Trevor Lawrence get married right now?

 

[Simpleton]

Wow, pretty shocking 10 yard split there, seems important.

 

[ravidubey]

Wow, pretty shocking 10 yard split there, seems important.

Encouraging for sure. I had him ranked up with Sewell, Parsons, and Pitts before his relatively unimpressive pro day.

I believe the pro day tells you how serious a prospect takes the process, especially those that opted out. I felt Rousseau may not have taken preparation and conditioning seriously enough. Micah Parsons was the opposite.

Could be he’s just not that good at drills. His career will be much more shaped by his speed within 0-10 yards vs 10-40 for sure.

 

[Simpleton]

He wasn’t so hot against Pitts and Toney.

I went back and watched the whole game based on this and he was excellent except for one play where he got roasted for about a 40 yard TD by Grimes. He had perfect coverage but seemingly lost track of the ball or lost it in the lights.

Considering I didn't see anything like that in the other games I watched (Georgia, Notre Dame, Ohio St.) I don't think it's a huge concern, although obviously you don't like to see it at all.

As far as Pitts and Toney, he only gave up 1 catch for 10 yards to Pitts on a quick slant, which was the only other catch he gave up aside from the TD. He was targeted 3 times against Pitts, only giving up the 1 catch with a PD on one of the two incompletions.

 

[ravidubey]

I went back and watched the whole game based on this and he was excellent except for one play where he got roasted for about a 40 yard TD by Grimes. He had perfect coverage but seemingly lost track of the ball or lost it in the lights.

Considering I didn't see anything like that in the other games I watched (Georgia, Notre Dame, Ohio St.) I don't think it's a huge concern, although obviously you don't like to see it at all.

As far as Pitts and Toney, he only gave up 1 catch for 10 yards to Pitts on a quick slant, which was the only other catch he gave up aside from the TD. He was targeted 3 times against Pitts, only giving up the 1 catch with a PD on one of the two incompletions.

Props.

Net impact: Kyle Trask was 26/40 for 408 yards, 3 TDs, the Gators scored 46, and three Gator receivers averaged over 18 yards per catch.

CBs can be taken out of the game more easily than other defensive positions.

For this and other reasons I think this is a luxury, cherry on top pick vs a kid like Micah Parsons who can impact every play.

I believe in strong CB play, but I don’t think you need to get it from the first round unless the guy is a catalyzing kind of difference-maker.

I see that in Parsons or Sewell.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Props.

Net impact: Kyle Trask was 26/40 for 408 yards, 3 TDs, the Gators scored 46, and three Gator receivers averaged over 18 yards per catch.

CBs can be taken out of the game more easily than other defensive positions.

For this and other reasons I think this is a luxury, cherry on top pick vs a kid like Micah Parsons who can impact every play.

I believe in strong CB play, but I don’t think you need to get it from the first round unless the guy is a catalyzing kind of difference-maker.

I see that in Parsons or Sewell.

That's silly to say about one corner on defense and then point to an Olineman. One great player at any position can be neutralized. Especially an Olineman who needs the other 4 guys playing great with him. Just like a corner. And Parsons wouldn't have stopped Trask and those weapons either.

Defense requires all 11 guys doing their jobs.

 

[NoDak]

For this and other reasons I think this is a luxury, cherry on top pick

Yet, you advocate taking Pitts with what we already have on offense, to go along with an all-timer bad defense.

 

[Simpleton]

Props.

Net impact: Kyle Trask was 26/40 for 408 yards, 3 TDs, the Gators scored 46, and three Gator receivers averaged over 18 yards per catch.

CBs can be taken out of the game more easily than other defensive positions.

For this and other reasons I think this is a luxury, cherry on top pick vs a kid like Micah Parsons who can impact every play.

I believe in strong CB play, but I don’t think you need to get it from the first round unless the guy is a catalyzing kind of difference-maker.

I see that in Parsons or Sewell.

I generally agree, which is why I'm not overly enthused with Surtain at 10, but I can recognize that he is a legitimate top 10-15 prospect who is one of the better options available in a less than ideal scenario.

Yes, I obviously prefer Sewell, Pitts and Slater, and of course trading down, but after that Parsons is a tossup for me. I think he has more upside but way more risk, more marginal risk than marginal upside compared to Surtain I think.

But this isn't a Trysten Hill type situation where taking Surtain is just blatantly ridiculous on it's face.

 

[ravidubey]

Yet, you advocate taking Pitts with what we already have on offense, to go along with an all-timer bad defense.

I’m saying you draft foundational players or special talents in the top ten.

If Surtain were special, then his position wouldn’t matter. He’s a solid NFL player, and maybe one day he becomes elite, but he’s not Jalen Ramsey.

Pitts is special right now. He’ll still be five years from now when the only ones left from today’s offense will be Dak and Lamb.

Parsons is also special. Top performer who also is a physical freak. Oh yeah he hazed someone once, so slipped on draft boards.

Cowboys mocks don’t care about who’s the best player, just who’s the best CB. Prior to Farley’s surgery, he was most mocked to Dallas. Now it’s Surtain. And in those mocks Surtain goes ahead of Dallas, Horn is the pick.

You can’t tell me Surtain and Horn are interchangeable or back to back 1 and 2 top defensive player in the draft. Bullshit.

It’s a CB fixation.

 

[NoDak]

Pitts is special right now. He’ll still be five years from now when the only ones left from today’s offense will be Dak and Lamb.

No, he's not. And you have ZERO to go on with what he'll be in five years. He hasn't stepped foot on an NFL field yet. He could bust just as easily as countless players before him that have been tagged with the "special" designation. The guy has talent and has promise. He's not Jesus in cleats.

Let's not induct him into the HOF quite yet.

 

[jsmith6919]

No, he's not. He hasn't stepped foot on an NFL field yet. He could bust just as easily as countless players before him that have been tagged with the "special" designation. The guy has talent and has promise. He's not Jesus in cleats.

Let's not induct him into the HOF quite yet.

All this shit from Ravi now actually has me hoping Pitts is a bust. I was lukewarm on taking him before this push for him but now if we take him I'm going to hype on every fucking mistake he makes more than Booze did on shrimp Beasley