Second round targets

[p1_]

The way they approached free agency I think they certainly set themselves up for a possible trade up. My reasoning is they effectively filled their needs at the DT position, safety position, and brought back Sean Lee. Granted all of those are short-term fills. But I think the Cowboys will be operating with the mindset that most of the holes for the 2020 season have been plugged....so letting go of an extra pick or two in order to move up won't be that big of a deal since there are fewer holes to fill on the 2020 roster.

Just my gut feeling.

you didnt mention corner for some reason.

 

[boozeman]

Don't like that one. Davidson is a good player, but it wouldn't feel right with Madubuike, Diggs, Delpit, Dugger, etc... still on the board.

Yeah, I loathe that one actually. I like Davidson but A.J. Green is not a third round talent.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Don't like that one. Davidson is a good player, but it wouldn't feel right with Madubuike, Diggs, Delpit, Dugger, etc... still on the board.

It's sort of what I've come to expect though. Good player but not a great value like we could have.

 

[jsmith6919]

Don't like that one. Davidson is a good player, but it wouldn't feel right with Madubuike, Diggs, Delpit, Dugger, etc... still on the board.

Yea I wouldn't be happy with this at all

 

[Smitty]

If Delpit slides into the third I would move up for him.

How about coming out of the draft with Diggs and Delpit? Would we be comfortable with our secondary at that point?

 

[NoDak]

If Delpit slides into the third I would move up for him.

How about coming out of the draft with Diggs and Delpit? Would we be comfortable with our secondary at that point?

Hell yeah. In fact, if both Delpit and Diggs are both on the board and we take Diggs, I'd immediately start looking for ways to trade up and snag Delpit.

For instance, we get Diggs at 19. And are able to trade up to say 24. What would that cost us? Our 3rd and a 4th? Or 3rd and 5th? Both 5ths? With a maybe a next years 4th thrown in? I have no idea. Just guessing here, as I'm not looking at a value chart.

But if that were possible, we could walk out of today with 3 first year starters. I'd call that a damn good draft, regardless of what happened the rest of the way.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

If Delpit slides into the third I would move up for him.

How about coming out of the draft with Diggs and Delpit? Would we be comfortable with our secondary at that point?

If you get 3 legit starters in a draft you did really well.

 

[Smitty]

I always feel like the value at DB is in the second round. Whereas I never really like the DL options there.

As a general rule, get your DLs in the first and your DBs in the second. It feels like this every damn year.

 

[Simpleton]

I always feel like the value at DB is in the second round. Whereas I never really like the DL options there.

As a general rule, get your DLs in the first and your DBs in the second. It feels like this every damn year.

That's because most of the time CB's seem to be pushed up the board because teams panic without them.

Look at CJ Henderson, Terrell and Damon Arnette.

In no world are these guys better prospects than Chaisson, Lamb, Kinlaw, Jefferson, etc. at their respective positions, yet they're being taken in the same range.

 

[Plan9Misfit]

That's because most of the time CB's seem to be pushed up the board because teams panic without them.

Look at CJ Henderson, Terrell and Damon Arnette.

In no world are these guys better prospects than Chaisson, Lamb, Kinlaw, Jefferson, etc. at their respective positions, yet they're being taken in the same range.

It's also because teams are retarded. They're obsessed with thinking that DBs matter because it's "a passing league", so they continually overvalue a useless position. D-line and LBs are who matter in the early rounds. DBs are the same in rounds 2-4.

 

[NoDak]

It's also because teams are retarded. They're obsessed with thinking that DBs matter because it's "a passing league", so they continually overvalue a useless position. D-line and LBs are who matter in the early rounds. DBs are the same in rounds 2-4.

As bad as peoples obsessive need for corners may be, the flip side is just as retarded. Case in point. ^^

To try and claim it is a useless position and that DBs are the same through 3 rounds is just stupid.

 

[Plan9Misfit]

As bad as peoples obsessive need for corners may be, the flip side is just as retarded. Case in point. ^^

To try and claim it is a useless position and that DBs are the same through 3 rounds is just stupid.

Compared to the defensive line, DBs are useless. If you have a dominant front 7 and a mediocre secondary, you're going to have a much better defense than a great secondary and a mediocre front 7.

 

[NoDak]

Compared to the defensive line, DBs are useless. If you have a dominant front 7 and a mediocre secondary, you're going to have a much better defense than a great secondary and a mediocre front 7.

~smiling~

~nodding~

 

[Couchcoach]

Compared to the defensive line, DBs are useless. If you have a dominant front 7 and a mediocre secondary, you're going to have a much better defense than a great secondary and a mediocre front 7.

 

[Smitty]

~smiling~

~nodding~

He’s right though.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

Compared to the defensive line, DBs are useless. If you have a dominant front 7 and a mediocre secondary, you're going to have a much better defense than a great secondary and a mediocre front 7.

Agree front seven is much more important than Corner. Would add Safety as a position of significant importance, too.
If the front seven and safeties are good, then you are ok with three or four ok- to solid corners, not bums, of course.

 

[NoDak]

He’s right though.

No, he's not. While I agree that overall the Dline is more important to building a strong defense, you still need a strong back end for a complete D. Claiming that cornerbacks are useless and DBs are the same through the span of 100 picks is moronic. At best.

 

[Smitty]

No, he's not. While I agree that overall the Dline is more important to building a strong defense, you still need a strong back end for a complete D. Claiming that cornerbacks are useless and DBs are the same through the span of 100 picks is moronic. At best.

I was referring to his post about a strong secondary and weak DL and vice versa.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

No, he's not. While I agree that overall the Dline is more important to building a strong defense, you still need a strong back end for a complete D. Claiming that cornerbacks are useless and DBs are the same through the span of 100 picks is moronic. At best.

You need a handful of decent corners for sure, but you seldomly see a great secondary apart from a good to great front seven. You do see great defenses without great corners.
Basically, a good front can make a good secondary but not often the other way around.

 

[shoop]

In that scenario I’d rather take Diggs or Delpit and then Ashtyn Davis, Anae or Okwara in the third