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selfish fuck.
Eh I'm not upset with him for it. It just shouldn't be in Dallas. I don't think it's uncommon for a competitive guy to want to continue playing. And I don't expect a competitive guy like Witten to realize his own inability as a player. Let someone else sign him for the name and not for the ability.
 
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It’s McCarthy’s next test after Moore. Can he do with Witten what Bill Parcells did to Emmitt Smith?
It's not that simple.

Parcells does like to clean out as much of the locker room as possible in an effort to establish a completely new culture.

That is why he let Emmitt Smith go, but as I said before, it's not as simple as it looked.

Parcells also likes to keep one or two veterans that he believes are professionals that can help kind of be that bridge for the new guard to the old guard -- that's exactly why he kept Darren Woodson.

Granted, Darren Woodson had more in the tank as a player than Emmitt Smith did, but the point is that Emmitt Smith was known as being one of those guys by that point who kind of just did whatever the hell he wanted to. Emmitt was the infamous organizer of the domino games in the locker room, and it was Darren Woodson who began complaining to the players about how they were spending their spare time during losing seasons doing stuff like that as opposed to getting treatment for studying tape.

The point that I'm getting at is that Parcells didn't just cut veterans from the old regime just to do so. There was a method to the madness.

And when it comes to Jason Witten, he has never been a disruptive guy and I think he fits the mold perfectly that Darren Woodson did in that he would be a consummate professional who could help to establish the new way of doing things with the players.

As I alluded to before, as long as he isn't starting and I very much doubt that would be the case with Mike McCarthy, I don't see any harm in bringing in a guy who can be a pretty good coach on the sidelines and an occasional contributor on the field. Likewise, if they decide not to bring him back then it won't bother me one bit.

I just don't think this is as big a deal as some are making it out to be.
 
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Parcells brought all kinds of players from his prior teams
 

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Parcells brought all kinds of players from his prior teams
Yes, but he always kept 1 or 2 vets from the current team to help bridge the gap so long as they fit what he was looking for.

Darren Woodson was that guy.

Emmitt Smith was all about himself towards the end there and Parcells knew that which is why he didn't keep him.
 

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I just don't think this is as big a deal as some are making it out to be.
I think my big fear with Witten is how close he is with Jerry. I don't want Jerry to start meddling to try and get a guy who he loves on the field more. Jerry seems to have given all authority to McCarthy, I just don't want Witten as an easy target for Jerry to try and take control again. I don't think Witten is the type to go whine to Jerry but still I can't help but think Jerry has a blind spot for the player.

As far as being a blocking specialist and leader I don't have a problem with Witten. But I don't trust this team to stick to that. I think we are better off going a different direction and letting guys like Dak be the leader of the offense.
 

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You have to dump the progress stoppers. Leaning on Witten because you have no one else is a lazy Garrett move. Forcing him onto the field over Jarwin was ridiculous.

More of the same... sorry that definitely fails the test.
 

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I’m content to leave Witten’s future with Dallas up to the coach. If he thinks Witten can contribute then that’s fine. I accept the fact that McCarthy knows more about player personal than I do
 

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:lol

I don't blame a player for wanting to play as long as they can. I'd do the same thing. And wouldn't give a single fuck about what people on some obscure message board thought about it.
I’m content to leave Witten’s future with Dallas up to the coach. If he thinks Witten can contribute then that’s fine. I accept the fact that McCarthy knows more about player personal than I do
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No fucking shit.

Is anyone under the illusion that their opinion matters here? We’re just venting fellas.
 

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No fucking shit.

Is anyone under the illusion that their opinion matters here? We’re just venting fellas.
What is there that offends you about that? I haven’t tried to stifle anyone’s opinion. I was giving my opinion that my position is to leave it up to the coach.
 

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I think my big fear with Witten is how close he is with Jerry. I don't want Jerry to start meddling to try and get a guy who he loves on the field more. Jerry seems to have given all authority to McCarthy, I just don't want Witten as an easy target for Jerry to try and take control again. I don't think Witten is the type to go whine to Jerry but still I can't help but think Jerry has a blind spot for the player.

As far as being a blocking specialist and leader I don't have a problem with Witten. But I don't trust this team to stick to that. I think we are better off going a different direction and letting guys like Dak be the leader of the offense.
Witten said he's been having conversations "with Stephen and Jerry." That's troubling. This is the kind of thing that will be a litmus test for how much Jerry interferes. Even if it looked like McCarthy was agreeable., who knows how much of that would be Jerry twisting arms behind the scenes.

Besides that, Witten is a poster boy for the Garrett-era culture. I recall him sitting with Romo and Red Pube in Jerry's box during the Final Four, and a shot of the three of them sitting courtside at an NBA game. Time to cut the ties with those days and that mentality.
 

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I’m content to leave Witten’s future with Dallas up to the coach. If he thinks Witten can contribute then that’s fine. I accept the fact that McCarthy knows more about player personal than I do
How do you know it wouldn't be Jerry pressuring McCarthy to keep a Favorite Son on the Roster?
 

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How do you know it wouldn't be Jerry pressuring McCarthy to keep a Favorite Son on the Roster?
I don’t but if he does then does but that doesn’t seem to be the case now.
 

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How do you know it wouldn't be Jerry pressuring McCarthy to keep a Favorite Son on the Roster?
That's a valid concern to have.

I really hope that would not be the case.
 
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