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This man has mental issues. I hope he can get some help before it's too late.
This man has mental issues. I hope he can get some help before it's too late.
And yet a .500 QB who was a bus driver.
They are also putting him in their ROH. And, no, I'm not kidding.And yet a .500 QB who was a bus driver.
He should definitely be in their RoH.They are also putting him in their ROH. And, no, I'm not kidding.
It's not often that we disagree. This is one of those rare times.He should definitely be in their RoH.
DefinitelyHe should definitely be in their RoH.
I think in the end I would agree. Its tough because his play has really declined over the years. The numbers werent really ones that would wow you constantly but I dont think you get those SB rings without him. Hard to leave that off.He should definitely be in their RoH.
For me, that .500 record is a misleading stat because Eli’s career is abnormally long and the last 5 years really skew his stats.I think in the end I would agree. Its tough because his play has really declined over the years. The numbers werent really ones that would wow you constantly but I dont think you get those SB rings without him. Hard to leave that off.
Even in his prime he wasn't that good. A lot of 8-8 and 9-7 records. A lot of QB ratings in the 70s and completion percentages below 60 percent. He gets a lot of respect for 2 Superbowl wins and I get that but he was a bus driver. If you take away those two rings his career is that of a bus driver. I guess Flacco should have won a second Superbowl and we would be talking greatness for him too.For me, that .500 record is a misleading stat because Eli’s career is abnormally long and the last 5 years really skew his stats.
Normally, seven years is long enough to consider a long-enough career for HOF consideration. Eli’s first seven years as a full-time starter (2005-2011) were .607 winning record with 2 superb playoff runs resulting in rings.
In comparison, Aikman was ‘lucky’ his career was cut short because, had he played, the next three years would’ve been tortuous, souring how we view his career.
That being said, Eli is for sure ROH worthy but not HOF.
This is how I feel about him. He was not a great QB. Serviceable would be closer to how I would describe him.Even in his prime he wasn't that good. A lot of 8-8 and 9-7 records. A lot of QB ratings in the 70s and completion percentages below 60 percent. He gets a lot of respect for 2 Superbowl wins and I get that but he was a bus driver. If you take away those two rings his career is that of a bus driver. I guess Flacco should have won a second Superbowl and we would be talking greatness for him too.
Not sure if you’re debating me or not, but I didn’t say Eli was great. He’s not a HOFer for me.Even in his prime he wasn't that good. A lot of 8-8 and 9-7 records. A lot of QB ratings in the 70s and completion percentages below 60 percent. He gets a lot of respect for 2 Superbowl wins and I get that but he was a bus driver. If you take away those two rings his career is that of a bus driver. I guess Flacco should have won a second Superbowl and we would be talking greatness for him too.
That judge might have just saved his life.
Not really debating you, just don't think much of Eli. Don't actually care about the Giants ROH. And we both agree he isn't a HOFer.Not sure if you’re debating me or not, but I didn’t say Eli was great. He’s not a HOFer for me.
He’s definitely ROH, though, since the Giants ROH has lower requirements, exemplified by the inclusions of Amani Toomer, Justin Tuck and Osi Umenyiora and Phil Simms.
I don't think much of him either.Not really debating you, just don't think much of Eli. Don't actually care about the Giants ROH. And we both agree he isn't a HOFer.
I guess when I think of Eli I see Joe Flacco except with a team who stuck with him after he sucked really bad.
Yep, that mental health thing is nothing to fuck with. Glad he will be forced to, bare minimum, get evaluated.That judge might have just saved his life.