JJT: Mike McCarthy’s chance to succeed with Cowboys comes with power Jerry Jones never afforded Jason Garrett

[Stasheroo]

Maybe I don’t understand the post from Deadrise but the way I read it, it’s a true statement. Johnson had no exposure or experienced in the NFL before he became the coach of the Cowboys.

How could he? How could anyone accomplish anything in the NFL before they arrived? Did you accomplish anything at your first job before you arrived?

What Johnson did was to win a Championship and build a powerhouse at the last place he coached. Miami.

 

[L.T. Fan]

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How could he? How could anyone accomplish anything in the NFL before they arrived? Did you accomplish anything at your first job before you arrived?

What Johnson did was to win a Championship and build a powerhouse at the last place he coached. Miami.

I didn’t know that was ever at issue. I just read the statement that was made and you can’t accomplish anything before you begin. I just don’t associate it with countable credibility necessarily because there are a significant number of successful college coaches who fell on their face in the transition so to me credibility as an NFL land mark is based on during and post NFL accomplishments.

 

[Clay_Allison]

Guys, did you know Mike McCarthy also never won in the NFL before he got into the NFL? Food for thought.

 

[L.T. Fan]

No I didn’t know that. But he didn’t have credibility in the NFL until he did established a record. There’s no formula as to who will be successful in the NFL until they establish some sort of performance record. You don’t enter the league as sure thing or a loser. That is done by participating. There are players who are regarded more highly than others but there is also such a thing as a bust.

 

[Stasheroo]

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I didn’t know that was ever at issue. I just read the statement that was made and you can’t accomplish anything before you begin. I just don’t associate it with countable credibility necessarily because there are a significant number of successful college coaches who fell on their face in the transition so to me credibility as an NFL land mark is based on during and post NFL accomplishments.

How, in fact, did Jimmy Johnson do?

 

[boozeman]

How, in fact, did Jimmy Johnson do?

@Stasheroo remind me to introduce you to a board smilie that tends to come in handy at times like this.

 

[Stasheroo]

@Stasheroo remind me to introduce you to a board smilie that tends to come in handy at times like this.

will do. Always looking to learn

 

[L.T. Fan]

How, in fact, did Jimmy Johnson do?

He did very well in Dallas and mediocre in Florida as a coach. Doing okay now as a panelist on NFL shows.

 

[deadrise]

In Johnson's first camp at Dallas he thought he had a fast team. Compared to a college team, it was fast. Compared to other NFL teams, it was slow. He found that out in short order, and went 1 - 15. So winning national championships at Miami didn't mean shit. He spent the whole first year in on-the-job training. Next season 7 - 9. In his first two seasons he was 8 - 24. So much for credibility with Jerry from his time at the U.

Admittedly, he learned fast and went on to do very well. But the control Jimmy had at the outset was because he took it. It wasn't long before Jerry took it back.

 

[Cotton]

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I didn’t know that was ever at issue. I just read the statement that was made and you can’t accomplish anything before you begin. I just don’t associate it with countable credibility necessarily because there are a significant number of successful college coaches who fell on their face in the transition so to me credibility as an NFL land mark is based on during and post NFL accomplishments.

Yeah, and the sky is fucking blue. Obvious statement is obvious.

 

[Cotton]

will do. Always looking to learn

Here is the smiley he is talking about, since his jackwagon ass left you hanging.

 

[Rev]

@Stasheroo got LT'd

 

[Cotton]

@Stasheroo got LT'd

On like his second day on the board.

 

[Stasheroo]

Here is the smiley he is talking about, since his jackwagon ass left you hanging.

Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering if or when he would let me know. I use that gif quite a bit myself, specifically in reference to Marinelli.

 

[Stasheroo]

@Stasheroo got LT'd

I'm not familiar with the phrase?
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[L.T. Fan]

Yeah, and the sky is fucking blue. Obvious statement is obvious.

This was merely a response to a statement that the college championship that Johnson brought with him to the NFL gave him credibility to be an NFL coach. I simply pointed out that many college coaches tried to make the transition but failed so even a college championship didn’t necessarily mean anything toward a persons success probability in the NFL. What seems to be the hiccup?

 

[Cotton]

Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering if or when he would let me know. I use that gif quite a bit myself, specifically in reference to Marinelli.

Here you can post that gif by simply typing : and then LT.

 

[data]

This was merely a response to a statement that the college championship that Johnson brought with him to the NFL gave him credibility to be an NFL coach. I simply pointed out that many college coaches tried to make the transition but failed so even a college championship didn’t necessarily mean anything toward a persons success probability in the NFL. What seems to be the hiccup?

Jimmy Johnson was the first Coach to ever win both NCAA championship and Super Bowl...Switzer was second.

Nick Saban and Steve Spurrier failed horrifically to become the third.

Pete Carroll is the third and final member of this exclusive club...although he may be removed since his USC years have been asterisked.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Jimmy Johnson was the first Coach to ever win both NCAA championship and Super Bowl...Switzer was second.

Nick Saban and Steve Spurrier failed horrifically to become the third.

Pete Carroll is the third and final member of this exclusive club...although he may be removed since his USC years have been asterisked.

Well of course but that is after the fact. The point was at the onset he hadn’t accomplished anything more that several other college coaches had tried their hand at going from college to the pros. His championship with Miami gave him nothing more than say Bud Wilkinson or others with the same credentials had tried.

 

[data]

Well of course but that is after the fact. The point was at the onset he hadn’t accomplished anything more that several other college coaches had tried their hand at going from college to the pros. His championship with Miami gave him nothing more than say Bud Wilkinson or others with the same credentials had tried.

now you’re off your rocker.

Bud Wilkinson’s last game as head coach was 1963.

You’re telling me it’s a toss-up between Jimmy Johnson and Bud Wilkinson to hire for your next NFL head coach?