Garrett Watch Thread...

[Genghis Khan]

0:52-1:32

"This is not my fault"

YOU HAD THAT CHANCE EARLIER IN YOUR TENURE AND YOU WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH WHICH IS WHY YOU HAD IT TAKEN AWAY IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU HAM-FISTED ASSHAT.

 

[lostxn]

0:52-1:32

"This is not my fault"

Nobody going to note the Bobby Carpenter siting? Worst Cowboys 1st round draft pick evar....

 

[Cujo]

YOU HAD THAT CHANCE EARLIER IN YOUR TENURE AND YOU WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH WHICH IS WHY YOU HAD IT TAKEN AWAY IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU HAM-FISTED ASSHAT.

The fucking audacity is a little much. As if his entire tenure has been defined by the organization holding him back. I found a new level of hate for him.

 

[p1_]

Is anyone surprised at Garrett scapegoating Moore in order to keep his job after 10 long years without ultimate success? Perfectly predictable, just like his offense .

 

[UncleMilti]

Zimmer almost makes sense, but I don't think this is the kind of team where the lunchpail and hardhat blue collar coach guy can keep the team in touch with reality. I think you need a coach that everyone buys into on a different level, either because they are an Xs and Os genius or a charismatic, driven personality.

If a coach can't build an identity for the team then they default to the lazy, swaggering playboy Cowboys.

I'm not sure about Zimmer, but he at least has experience and unless he has a hard-on for Jones for snubbing him the first go round, I think he'd be a decent hire. His Defense has been good, but he's also underperformed a bit with the Vikings. This weekend should be a good indicator if he can get his team to the next level.

 

[lostxn]

Is anyone surprised at Garrett scapegoating Moore in order to keep his job after 10 long years without ultimate success? Perfectly predictable, just like his offense .

I think the offense was responsible for a few of our losses. I think we just give Moore a bit of a pass because 1) he's a rookie OC and 2) his overall results were pretty darn good. But he definitely should take part of the blame in the losses at New Orleans, New England, the Jets, the Bills and the Eagles.

 

[UncleMilti]

I don't understand how McDaniels and Saleh are 1-2 in odds.

Me either.

I've already shown my irritation with McDaniels, its not only no but fuck no...... Saleh doesn't impress me. I mean, who the fuck couldn't get good defensive play out of the 49;ers D with all the talent they've acquired thru the draft?

 

[ravidubey]

If anything, you’d think he’d scapegoat the defense.

The offense was number. One in yards, so they had to be doing something right.

No, instilling toughness and get Dak to the next level has to be the priorities. Garrett has done neither.

 

[Rev]

I think the offense was responsible for a few of our losses. I think we just give Moore a bit of a pass because 1) he's a rookie OC and 2) his overall results were pretty darn good. But he definitely should take part of the blame in the losses at New Orleans, New England, the Jets, the Bills and the Eagles.

You know that your job is on the line but don't go to the OC when issues arise?

We better be comfortable with Moore because we all know that he is going to be forced on the new coach.

 

[p1_]

I think the offense was responsible for a few of our losses. I think we just give Moore a bit of a pass because 1) he's a rookie OC and 2) his overall results were pretty darn good. But he definitely should take part of the blame in the losses at New Orleans, New England, the Jets, the Bills and the Eagles.

Not to defend Moore, but the marked improvement in offensive performance (see league offensive rankings) measured against last season bears testament to Moore’s abilities, even in his rookie campaign. Ultimately, the defense and special teams seriously let the team down.

 

[GShock]

Zimmer almost makes sense, but I don't think this is the kind of team where the lunchpail and hardhat blue collar coach guy can keep the team in touch with reality. I think you need a coach that everyone buys into on a different level, either because they are an Xs and Os genius or a charismatic, driven personality.

If a coach can't build an identity for the team then they default to the lazy, swaggering playboy Cowboys.

Hmmm...where would they see that persona modeled for them?

 

[Clay_Allison]

I'm not sure about Zimmer, but he at least has experience and unless he has a hard-on for Jones for snubbing him the first go round, I think he'd be a decent hire. His Defense has been good, but he's also underperformed a bit with the Vikings. This weekend should be a good indicator if he can get his team to the next level.

Problem is that turns into the legit version of "If he's so good, why is he available?" If he wins, he won't be.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Is anyone surprised at Garrett scapegoating Moore in order to keep his job after 10 long years without ultimate success? Perfectly predictable, just like his offense .

The sad thing is the offense was the best part of the team. A head coach is ultimately responsible for the whole team though. Not just one side of the ball. And of the 3 phases 2 of them were total failures. And at minimum he couldn't get all the pieces to click together.

 

[Texas Ace]

YOU HAD THAT CHANCE EARLIER IN YOUR TENURE AND YOU WEREN'T GOOD ENOUGH WHICH IS WHY YOU HAD IT TAKEN AWAY IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU HAM-FISTED ASSHAT.

I didn't think I could hate the guy even more.

He might be a decent guy outside of football, but as a professional, this guy is a total shitbag and he's fooled a lot of people into believing he's this great guy when in actuality he is a snake.

 

[Clay_Allison]

I didn't think I could hate the guy even more.

He might be a decent guy outside of football, but as a professional, this guy is a total shitbag and he's fooled a lot of people into believing he's this great guy when in actuality he is a snake.

What are the odds that an Ivy League dude who has never not been rich or had to be accountable for his mistakes wouldn't be an asshole?

 

[Smitty]

I again do not see this as scapegoating Moore. Who knows what was actually said? But it’s entirely reasonable to argue “If you wanted to see my best chance to save my job then you should have let me call plays.”

It’s entirely reasonable for Jones to say no and terminate him anyway, but that’s on Jones. It’s not underhanded of Garrett to suggest that things were not done the way he would have done them this year, if Moore was in fact calling plays.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I again do not see this as scapegoating Moore. Who knows what was actually said? But it’s entirely reasonable to argue “If you wanted to see my best chance to save my job then you should have let me call plays.”

It’s entirely reasonable for Jones to say no and terminate him anyway, but that’s on Jones. It’s not underhanded of Garrett to suggest that things were not done the way he would have done them this year, if Moore was in fact calling plays.

Garrett should have refused before the season. Not waited until it failed and then pitched a fit.

 

[p1_]

I again do not see this as scapegoating Moore. Who knows what was actually said? But it’s entirely reasonable to argue “If you wanted to see my best chance to save my job then you should have let me call plays.”

It’s entirely reasonable for Jones to say no and terminate him anyway, but that’s on Jones. It’s not underhanded of Garrett to suggest that things were not done the way he would have done them this year, if Moore was in fact calling plays.

Even if the prior years of Garrett indeed calling plays showed equal or worse results?

 

[Smitty]

Garrett should have refused before the season. Not waited until it failed and then pitched a fit.

He probably should have, without a contract extension. Then the issue could have been addressed right then and there.

Either terminate following last season or extension.

The thing is, it’s just not sneaky to say “I want another chance and I want to do it my way this time,” if you weren’t allowed to do it entirely your way last time.

It’s arguable that he doesn’t deserve another chance to do it his way based on history - frankly I’d agree - it’s just over and time to move on - but I don’t think suggesting that reflects poorly on him. He probably believes that if he was calling plays they win another 2-3 games.

 

[Smitty]

Even if the prior years of Garrett indeed calling plays showed equal or worse results?

Thats why I said - he might be WRONG, but it doesn’t mean he’s selling out Moore. He’s simply saying, well, I was coaching for my job and wanted to do X, but you insisted on Y. I want one more chance doing X because I think X works.

I’m ready to move on, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Garrett implying that he would have done better if he was allowed to take back over playcalling in an attempt to save his job. Of course everyone believes (at that level) that they can do it best themselves.

The way bigger problem here is Jerry waffling and not just ripping off the band aid and allowing this circus to continue.