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[Texas Ace]

"Handed" is definitely the right term to use.

In the piece on the official site they made it sound as if Carter beat out all the other QBs to earn the starting spot his rookie year, but that's a load of BS.

I remember Tony Banks looking a lot better than Carter but Banks was the one who got cut. Banks wasn't a world beater by any means but he looked a lot better than Carter during the 2001 preseason.

No hyperbole...Carter in the beginning of his rookie year was the worst QB I've ever seen.

The guy could not complete a simple throw, and every pass was a duck. His mechanics were horrible.

He broke his thumb early in the season and missed a lot of time, but that was the best thing that happened to him because he must've spent a lot of his downtime working on his throwing motion because he looked much better when he came back from that injury than he did before it.

Point is, he didn't beat anyone for anything. Brandon Weeden wouldve been better back then.....that's how bad preseason Quincy was.

 

[L.T. Fan]

No hyperbole...Carter in the beginning of his rookie year was the worst QB I've ever seen.

The guy could not complete a simple throw, and every pass was a duck. His mechanics were horrible.

He broke his thumb early in the season and missed a lot of time, but that was the best thing that happened to him because he must've spent a lot of his downtime working on his throwing motion because he looked much better when he came back from that injury than he did before it.

Point is, he didn't beat anyone for anything. Brandon Weeden wouldve been better back then.....that's how bad preseason Quincy was.

See post #3317.

 

[Clay_Allison]

"Handed" is definitely the right term to use.

In the piece on the official site they made it sound as if Carter beat out all the other QBs to earn the starting spot his rookie year, but that's a load of BS.

I remember Tony Banks looking a lot better than Carter but Banks was the one who got cut. Banks wasn't a world beater by any means but he looked a lot better than Carter during the 2001 preseason.

Banks even went on to have a pretty solid season for the Redskins.

 

[Genghis Khan]

https://mobile.twitter.com/clarencehilljr/status/638398835241320448



The above is quoting Stephen Jones that they are not interested in an older RB, but could bring in a younger RB if they see one they like.

 

[Rev]

https://mobile.twitter.com/clarencehilljr/status/638398835241320448



The above is quoting Stephen Jones that they are not interested in an older RB, but could bring in a younger RB if they see one they like.

I never expected them to go after anybody. This season is going to sink or swim with the three we have. I would still do it regardless of age because they aren't asking even the young ones to take on Murray's workload by themselves. If/when they don't work out release them but to sit back at the position that you stamped as your identity is just dumb.

 

[Cotton]

https://mobile.twitter.com/clarencehilljr/status/638398835241320448



The above is quoting Stephen Jones that they are not interested in an older RB, but could bring in a younger RB if they see one they like.

What young RB? This has to be his way of saying they aren't doing anything at RB without actually saying it. There will be no young RB that shakes out. And, if they are young, they will be unproven in the league. I'm just not seeing it.

 

[Cotton]

I never expected them to go after anybody. This season is going to sink or swim with the three we have. I would still do it regardless of age because they aren't asking even the young ones to take on Murray's workload by themselves. If/when they don't work out release them but to sit back at the position that you stamped as your identity is just dumb.

I would bring in F. Jackson for a workout and not even blink doing it. Sing him to a 1 year deal and draft for the long-term stopgap next year. It's not like we would be asking Jackson to be a longterm solution.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

What young RB? This has to be his way of saying they aren't doing anything at RB without actually saying it. There will be no young RB that shakes out. And, if they are young, they will be unproven in the league. I'm just not seeing it.

Who cares about being proven? It's a RB. You don't need a guy with experience. Just get a guy with fresh legs who can run.

 

[Rev]

Who cares about being proven? It's a RB. You don't need a guy with experience. Just get a guy with fresh legs who can run.

You can get Romo killed out there.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

You can get Romo killed out there.

Young players can't pass protect? It's not rocket science. Most run blocking with a RB has to do with willingness and less to do with experience.

By the way, I watched the Vikings game with the play where Randle gave up a sack that was called back. It wasn't the worst blocking in the world out of a RB. He just got pushed back way too far. The bigger question is why was Randle single blocking a guy when the Vikings only rushed 4. I have to imagine someone was supposed to at least give him a little help.

 

[Cotton]

Young players can't pass protect? It's not rocket science. Most run blocking with a RB has to do with willingness and less to do with experience.

By the way, I watched the Vikings game with the play where Randle gave up a sack that was called back. It wasn't the worst blocking in the world out of a RB. He just got pushed back way too far. The bigger question is why was Randle single blocking a guy when the Vikings only rushed 4. I have to imagine someone was supposed to at least give him a little help.

They aren't blocking the same people they blocked in college, so if they are young enough they are not proven as a blocker at this level.

 

[Rev]

Young players can't pass protect? It's not rocket science. Most run blocking with a RB has to do with willingness and less to do with experience.

By the way, I watched the Vikings game with the play where Randle gave up a sack that was called back. It wasn't the worst blocking in the world out of a RB. He just got pushed back way too far. The bigger question is why was Randle single blocking a guy when the Vikings only rushed 4. I have to imagine someone was supposed to at least give him a little help.

Well given that one of the first things they talk about young RBs is blitz recognition and pickup I would say that is a valid concern.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Well given that one of the first things they talk about young RBs is blitz recognition and pickup I would say that is a valid concern.

It's because college players don't do a lot of it. There just is zero film. We aren't talking about a rookie with no game tape though. We are talking about RBs with at least one preseason in the books if not more. I think you should be able to tell if a guy can pick up a blitz.

 

[1bigfan13]

I never expected them to go after anybody. This season is going to sink or swim with the three we have. I would still do it regardless of age because they aren't asking even the young ones to take on Murray's workload by themselves. If/when they don't work out release them but to sit back at the position that you stamped as your identity is just dumb.

I think we'll see another vet signed after week 1. The procrastination is centered around that non-guaranteed contract loophole, IMO.

 

[Rev]

It's because college players don't do a lot of it. There just is zero film. We aren't talking about a rookie with no game tape though. We are talking about RBs with at least one preseason in the books if not more. I think you should be able to tell if a guy can pick up a blitz.

I wouldn't want to chance Romo with that. Even one with "it wasn't that bad" gives me the shivers.

 

[ravidubey]

https://mobile.twitter.com/clarencehilljr/status/638398835241320448

The above is quoting Stephen Jones that they are not interested in an older RB, but could bring in a younger RB if they see one they like.

Yeah I saw this and it's a pointless statement.

Why restrict yourself, especially when the "young" options might not be good enough? So if the "youth" movement fails and you do end up signing a veteran you look like an ass-- or worse you don't sign the veteran you needed because you don't want to end up looking like an ass.

In 1990 after Rodney Hampton went down as a rookie, old-assed Otis Anderson averaged 3.5 YPC during the season in a committee and went on to become the Superbowl MVP after dominating in the playoffs.

I mean does anyone consider Ryan Williams or Lance Dunbar to be building blocks? Hell no, we're all (Cowboys included) looking forward to a future draft.

So if that's the case, you grab whoever can get the job done right now.

I will say DMac looked great vs. Minnesota, but if he gets injured I wouldn't think twice about replacing him with a veteran.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Young players can't pass protect? It's not rocket science. Most run blocking with a RB has to do with willingness and less to do with experience.

By the way, I watched the Vikings game with the play where Randle gave up a sack that was called back. It wasn't the worst blocking in the world out of a RB. He just got pushed back way too far. The bigger question is why was Randle single blocking a guy when the Vikings only rushed 4. I have to imagine someone was supposed to at least give him a little help.

He did not attack that guy at all and the same happened in the SD game makes me wonder if he is not favoring a injury or something.

I saw him block much better last year he would step up and strike a guy.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

He did not attack that guy at all and the same happened in the SD game makes me wonder if he is not favoring a injury or something.

I saw him block much better last year he would step up and strike a guy.

I'd actually prefer he try to take guys out down low. Trying to block guys up high who are 50 pounds bigger then you just sounds like a bad idea.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I wouldn't want to chance Romo with that. Even one with "it wasn't that bad" gives me the shivers.

I don't want to waste a roster spot on a RB who sucks at running but blocks well. You know how young RBs prove their ability to pick up a blitz? By playing them. It's not that I want Romo to get killed, I just think the difficulty of picking up a blitz by a RB isn't as high as some make it sound.

 

[Rev]

I don't want to waste a roster spot on a RB who sucks at running but blocks well. You know how young RBs prove their ability to pick up a blitz? By playing them. It's not that I want Romo to get killed, I just think the difficulty of picking up a blitz by a RB isn't as high as some make it sound.

Its the coaches that are saying that so lets tackle this again.....