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I can understand that as a mid-major conference member. P5 teams don't do P5 away only games. That is a terrible idea. It should but home and away, neutral field or nothing at all.
Two of the games I mentioned were neutral field...and they are going to have to give a little to bring more relevance to the program. I don't see a solution from you, just that teams don't want to go to Waco.
 

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Foster leaving Beamer is about the equivalent of Fisher leaving Bowden. Unless Beamer is out at VT I would be shocked if that happened. If you guys could pull that off I say big time hats off to you.
Yep only reason I see him doing it is so he can leverage a stint with us turning around our D into a HC position but I'll take it
 

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Two of the games I mentioned were neutral field...and they are going to have to give a little to bring more relevance to the program. I don't see a solution from you, just that teams don't want to go to Waco.
I'm not trying to be a negative nancy. I am just explaining one of the factors for them not getting a solid home and away. I saw Tech struggle with that for years. For a time Lubbock was a dangerous place to play regardless of what the record was. It was too risky and unpredictable. I was very thankful when Leach came on board and announced that he would no longer schedule away only games to too programs. It just didn't make sense.

I don't know all of the reasons now but with the former format ther was no reason to schedule a tough non-conference schedule. I can understand a team that is just coming into their own wanting some gimme games. Keep in mind that this winning attitude is brand new for baylor. They haven't been in this game long. It may take a few years to build up to be a true too program.

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Yep only reason I see him doing it is so he can leverage a stint with us turning around our D into a HC position but I'll take it
Personally I don't see that benefit in that. He already garners a bunch of respect in the football world. He turned down some pretty sweet gigs before.
 

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UCF is begging for P5 teams to schedule them and have a lot of open dates on their schedule the next 3 days. Problem with a lot of those schools, Baylor included, is that they don't want to give up a home and home. They want it all on their own terms and nothing else.
Exactly my point. Why does anyone want to go to Orlando to play? You get a low revenue game with the big risk of losing. Screw that. I'd rather schedule something like Arakansas like Tech has done. At least there is money involved and other good reasons.

Take your Knight hat off for a sec and think about it. Why in the world would a P5 team want to go play one of the best mid-majors out there on their turf? You get the same money as playing SMU with a ton less benefits. Screw you....you wanta play a P5 team? Pack your happy ass up and come to our turf.
 

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Personally I don't see that benefit in that. He already garners a bunch of respect in the football world. He turned down some pretty sweet gigs before.
I don't know, the original rumor started over at the VT forum saying he reached out to Sumlin awhile back due to frustration in not having a timetable for him to move up so guess this could all be just posturing :shrug
 
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Exactly my point. Why does anyone want to go to Orlando to play? You get a low revenue game with the big risk of losing. Screw that. I'd rather schedule something like Arakansas like Tech has done. At least there is money involved and other good reasons.

Take your Knight hat off for a sec and think about it. Why in the world would a P5 team want to go play one of the best mid-majors out there on their turf? You get the same money as playing SMU with a ton less benefits. Screw you....you wanta play a P5 team? Pack your happy ass up and come to our turf.
You do it because you want a quality win. If Baylor had beaten an AAC champion UCF this year instead of SMU, there case for a playoff spot would have been much closer.
 

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You do it because you want a quality win. If Baylor had beaten an AAC champion UCF this year instead of SMU, there case for a playoff spot would have been much closer.
Exactly...Baylor's is just not in the same class as Ala, Oh St, Okla, Tex, etc...they need signature wins and quality wins to differentiate themselves from other schools. SMU, NOrthwestern St, and Buffalo just will not get it done.
 

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You do it because you want a quality win. If Baylor had beaten an AAC champion UCF this year instead of SMU, there case for a playoff spot would have been much closer.
From a fan prospective I could see that. As an overall vision of the program it makes little sense though. In the Big12 you have 3 non-conference games and then you play 9 P5 games. That is plenty to make it in. The SEC has been doing that for years and that was the agreed upon formula to get in. It was also agreed upon that not having a conference title game will not be held against you but that still happened.
 

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From a fan prospective I could see that. As an overall vision of the program it makes little sense though. In the Big12 you have 3 non-conference games and then you play 9 P5 games. That is plenty to make it in. The SEC has been doing that for years and that was the agreed upon formula to get in. It was also agreed upon that not having a conference title game will not be held against you but that still happened.
I'm not sure what the point of releasing the rankings every week is. The committee made it pretty clear that every week they will start from scratch and rank the teams. That they aren't taking into consideration what a team is ranked the previous week. People get upset when a team falls but in reality they aren't really falling because it is a totally independent ranking from the previous week. TCU wasn't as much punished for not having a championship game as much as they were punished for playing a cupcake the last week of the season while other teams were strengthening their resume.
 

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I'm not sure what the point of releasing the rankings every week is. The committee made it pretty clear that every week they will start from scratch and rank the teams. That they aren't taking into consideration what a team is ranked the previous week. People get upset when a team falls but in reality they aren't really falling because it is a totally independent ranking from the previous week. TCU wasn't as much punished for not having a championship game as much as they were punished for playing a cupcake the last week of the season while other teams were strengthening their resume.
Releasing it every week was great IMO...from a fans standpoint you had something to discuss until the next rankings came out. It made for great entertainment.
 

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I'm not sure what the point of releasing the rankings every week is. The committee made it pretty clear that every week they will start from scratch and rank the teams. That they aren't taking into consideration what a team is ranked the previous week. People get upset when a team falls but in reality they aren't really falling because it is a totally independent ranking from the previous week. TCU wasn't as much punished for not having a championship game as much as they were punished for playing a cupcake the last week of the season while other teams were strengthening their resume.
I am not one that feel that they got screwed. You can take 3-6 and do whatever and there isn't much argument IMO.
 

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Releasing it every week was great IMO...from a fans standpoint you had something to discuss until the next rankings came out. It made for great entertainment.
It is fun for everyone to watch and discuss. I'm guessing the excitement generate a ton of interest and money.
 

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It is fun for everyone to watch and discuss. I'm guessing the excitement generate a ton of interest and money.
It's interesting because I saw someone make the argument that the selection committee in basketball should do something similar. It creates something to talk about but I always think it's funny when someone see's a team drop and freaks out. A team may get bumped way up the rankings for example by beating the number 1 team in the country. If that team however is a 8 loss team by the end of the season that win really carries minimal impact. However from a week to week basis the team that beat them would have been bumped highly in the rankings and may not give you a reason to drop them.
 

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BTW, I am really glad that Tech has some quality opponents scheduled going forward. The Arkansas game help and was a good opponent.

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In those years we have some solid mid-majors lined up as well.
 

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Gary Anderson is leaving Wisconsin for Oregon State? Whaaaaat? Oregon State just got better.
 
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Gary Anderson is leaving Wisconsin for Oregon State? Whaaaaat? Oregon State just got better.
I just don't get this. Bielema was an Arkansas guy and Anderson is a Pac12 guy, but how does Wisconsin keep getting screwed by coaches making lateral moves to average programs?
 

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I just don't get this. Bielema was an Arkansas guy and Anderson is a Pac12 guy, but how does Wisconsin keep getting screwed by coaches making lateral moves to average programs?
I don't either. Does Wisconsin have an admin problem that we don't know about?
 

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I just don't get this. Bielema was an Arkansas guy and Anderson is a Pac12 guy, but how does Wisconsin keep getting screwed by coaches making lateral moves to average programs?
Wisconsin is a much better program then Oregon State. That's a very odd move.
 

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Wisconsin is a much better program then Oregon State. That's a very odd move.
It's definitely a head scratcher.

Also, from what I can tell, Wisconsin is not one of those high stress jobs where the fan base freaks out and demands that you be fired for "only" winning 9 or 10 games like they do in Nebraska.

So I can't imagine there being "win the Big 10 or else" pressure applied to their coaches on a yearly basis.

I don't get it.
 
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