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Genghis Khan

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Frankly we kept him way too long and never even tried to seriously develop our next great QB.

Nah, when you look at the team's record with and without him in that era it was night and day. He wasn't without flaws but he was a very good QB and we didn't put enough players around him as some of the old guard started to deteriorate.
 

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Nah, when you look at the team's record with and without him in that era it was night and day. He wasn't without flaws but he was a very good QB and we didn't put enough players around him as some of the old guard started to deteriorate.
You can include him as a major part of that old guard.

He was a fine QB, at times exceptional even, but the end of 1983 showed his will had cracked. We should have gotten him some counseling after he was crying on the sidelines after the 82-83 playoff loss to Washington, but we kept cooking.

Our half-assed way of challenging the position was to draft Gary Hogeboom, and he was average.

By the time White regained his confidence and won his job back, his arm was shot.

God gave us an easy button to fix it-- Boomer Esiason was there for the taking in 1984, and we ignored it and still started "Hogenbloom "/White with no real replacement in development beyond the abysmal Steve Pelleur.

In 1985, Landry at last recognized White's arm was toast and shortened the WR patterns across the offense. Our offensive stats shot to #1 overall for a time, until teams figured it out. By that time our defense was ancient too. The Bengals, Bears, and Rams ran all over us in 85.

Why for the love of God they kept White as a starter in both 86 and 87 is an unfathomable mystery. But it almost didn't matter because we stunk all over by this time, even after drafting Herschel Walker and Mike Sherrard. Aging Tony Hill. Ancient Randy White and Ed Jones. I can recall White absolutely heaving rainbows you could time with a calendar trying to throw deep to Sherrard. It was embarrassing.

When they finally made White a backup in 1988 it didn't matter. Pelluer was awful, and we went 3-13.
 
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Our half-assed way of challenging the position was to draft Gary Hogeboom, and he was average.
He was there in '80. I doubt he was drafted to compete with White. That said, he had ideal height and Milton-like arm strength. Had a great game against the Rams in the '84 season opener and all downhill from there.
 

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You can include him as a major part of that old guard.

He was a fine QB, at times exceptional even, but the end of 1983 showed his will had cracked. We should have gotten him some counseling after he was crying on the sidelines after the 82-83 playoff loss to Washington, but we kept cooking.

Our half-assed way of challenging the position was to draft Gary Hogeboom, and he was average.

By the time White regained his confidence and won his job back, his arm was shot.

God gave us an easy button to fix it-- Boomer Esiason was there for the taking in 1984, and we ignored it and still started White with no real replacement in development beyond the abysmal Steve Pelleur.

In 1985, Landry at last recognized White's arm was toast and shortened the WR patterns across the offense. Our offensive stats shot to #1 overall for a time, until teams figured it out. By that time our defense was ancient too. The Bengals, Bears, and Rams ran all over us in 85.

Why for the love of God they kept White as a starter in both 86 and 87 is an unfathomable mystery. But it almost didn't matter because we stunk all over by this time, even after drafting Herschel Walker and Mike Sherrard. Aging Tony Hill. Ancient Randy White and Ed Jones. I can recall White absolutely heaving rainbows you could time with a calendar trying to throw deep to Sherrard. It was embarrassing.

When they finally made White a backup in 1988 it didn't matter. Pelluer was awful, and we went 3-13.
Actually he was pretty good in '86, if I remember correctly he was at a nearly 70% clip and had a 2:1 TD/INT ratio. I was at the game in 86 when he had to come in and pull it out for Pelleur in Philadelphia. We had full beer bottles thrown at us walking back to the shipyard through the JFK parking lot.
 

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Actually he was pretty good in '86, if I remember correctly he was at a nearly 70% clip and had a 2:1 TD/INT ratio. I was at the game in 86 when he had to come in and pull it out for Pelleur in Philadelphia. We had full beer bottles thrown at us walking back to the shipyard through the JFK parking lot.
He was better than Pelluer at decision-making and throwing very short passes. Walker and Sherrard helped cover up a lot of our issues since each was a special talent. On another team, that kind of talent injection would have been huge, but for us it was lipstick on a pig.
 

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Did you like those five championships his five picks against Oakland in a winnable game?
Romo did that too... :unsure

I think as a young kid I just liked that Pelluer was athletic and could run some. That was probably enough for me. :unsure
 

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Yep, I'm not bashing Schottenheimer, I'm rooting for him, but Jimmy's attitude there is so opposite of BS. BS would be sympathizing with them, soothing their wounds, empathizing, we all own this, etc.
 

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I mean, didn't Tony name one of his kids after Jerry? :doh
 
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