2025 Draft Big Boards, Position Rankings, and Mocks

[Genghis Khan]

Have you seen are selectively aggressive approach to FA? I wouldn't put it past them.

I wouldn't put anything past them.

That said, they don't seem to value RBs that much so I'd be surprised.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I wouldn't put anything past them.

That said, they don't seem to value RBs that much so I'd be surprised.

Yeah the only thing is we have a whole new coaching staff. What we value now may be different than we valued under Garrett and McCarthy. McCarthy certainly did not put a high value in RBs. But this team certainly feels like it has a different direction now. Not sure if the direction is better or worse but the whole staff is vastly different. We aren't packed with a bunch of former NFL head coaches. This isn't some 2010's all star coaching staff. It also wasn't a bunch of nepotism assistants hired.

So basically, we will just have to wait and see what direction the coaches steer this thing. Or maybe they won't and it will all be up to McClay.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I wouldn't put anything past them.

That said, they don't seem to value RBs that much so I'd be surprised.

Unless we're bouncing back on the Jerry yoyo of extremes from undervaluing them to now overvaluing them.

Although I myself would rather over- than under-value RB.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Yeah the only thing is we have a whole new coaching staff. What we value now may be different than we valued under Garrett and McCarthy. McCarthy certainly did not put a high value in RBs. But this team certainly feels like it has a different direction now. Not sure if the direction is better or worse but the whole staff is vastly different. We aren't packed with a bunch of former NFL head coaches. This isn't some 2010's all star coaching staff. It also wasn't a bunch of nepotism assistants hired.

So basically, we will just have to wait and see what direction the coaches steer this thing. Or maybe they won't and it will all be up to McClay.

Unless we're bouncing back on the Jerry yoyo of extremes from undervaluing them to now overvaluing them.

Although I myself would rather over- than under-value RB.

We'll see. The one thing I'd say that maybe indicates that not much has changed on that from is that we shopped at the dollar store for RBs in FA.

 

[Rev]

Yeah the only thing is we have a whole new coaching staff. What we value now may be different than we valued under Garrett and McCarthy. McCarthy certainly did not put a high value in RBs. But this team certainly feels like it has a different direction now. Not sure if the direction is better or worse but the whole staff is vastly different. We aren't packed with a bunch of former NFL head coaches. This isn't some 2010's all star coaching staff. It also wasn't a bunch of nepotism assistants hired.

So basically, we will just have to wait and see what direction the coaches steer this thing. Or maybe they won't and it will all be up to McClay.

Depends on who you think is really calling the shots.

I don't believe these arrogant fuckers will let much get by them. I will bring up the curtains again. They have an issue that has shown on the field and has been brought up by the players. Yet something as simple as curtains gets downplayed by them shitheads only to be done the way they like.

I think McClay is comfortable. I think Shottenheimer is just grateful. It's the same people as always that are running this and it will be the same results that has been for 30 years.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Depends on who you think is really calling the shots.

I don't believe these arrogant fuckers will let much get by them. I will bring up the curtains again. They have an issue that has shown on the field and has been brought up by the players. Yet something as simple as curtains gets downplayed by them shitheads only to be done the way they like.

I think McClay is comfortable. I think Shottenheimer is just grateful. It's the same people as always that are running this and it will be the same results that has been for 30 years.

True, but another factor is there's no Zeke this year. I really think our idiot GM wanted to see his pet to be the lead back and that probably didn't help at draft time.

 

[NoDak]

That said, they don't seem to value RBs that much so I'd be surprised.

Zeke’s draft slot and contract(s) not being that long ago tell me this might not be as accurate as we think.

 

[Simpleton]

Jeremiah has us taking Golden in his latest mock, over McMillan, Mykel Williams and Will Johnson.

I'd be pretty surprised with that but wouldn't hate it.

 

[mcnuttz]

So basically, we will just have to wait and see what direction the coaches steer this thing. Or maybe they won't and it will all be up to McClay.

This offseason's Cowboys fan motto:

Aggressively Wait & See

 

[Genghis Khan]

Zeke’s draft slot and contract(s) not being that long ago tell me this might not be as accurate as we think.

That draft was 9 years ago and the contract was like 5 so yeah that is a long time ago in the NFL.

But I'm not even saying they won't draft a RB high again. But my guess is that they'd only take a guy that high who they think is special. They thought that about Zeke (and were right).

My guess is Hampton wouldn't be in that category. I don't think they'd force taking a first round RB. I think they probably would take the WRs over the RB in the above scenario that we're referring to.

 

[NoDak]

That draft was 9 years ago and the contract was like 5 so yeah that is a long time ago in the NFL.

Jerry and Stephen are still front and center. 9 and 5 years is nothing in their timeline. Their short attention spans were directed elsewhere for a bit, but that doesn't mean they devalued the position of RB. Only that they were enamored with Dak, CeeDee, and Micah for a bit.

We're gonna go hard at the running game this year. Especially in light of how they were lambasted over last years running game mess, coupled with the success of a division rival and their running game. Jerry and Stephen are reactionary, not proactive. Just wait and see how much emphasis is placed on the position and rushing attack this year.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I think McClay is comfortable. I think Shottenheimer is just grateful. It's the same people as always that are running this and it will be the same results that has been for 30 years.

In the past they listen to their coaches on draft day. For good or bad Quinn had a lot of sway with the picks. I think McCarthy had sway with the picks. I think the DB coach had sway with the picks.

Granted those were coaches with skins on the wall. This coaching staff is more up and coming dudes. But it looks at least to me they had a little pull with free agency. So I think they will have some in the draft. Or at least you'll see the absence of pull like you saw previously.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Jerry and Stephen are still front and center. 9 and 5 years is nothing in their timeline. Their short attention spans were directed elsewhere for a bit, but that doesn't mean they devalued the position of RB. Only that they were enamored with Dak, CeeDee, and Micah for a bit.

We're gonna go hard at the running game this year. Especially in light of how they were lambasted over last years running game mess, coupled with the success of a division rival and their running game. Jerry and Stephen are reactionary, not proactive. Just wait and see how much emphasis is placed on the position and rushing attack this year.

I hope so.

For clarity's sake, the original post that began this discussion was this:

There is a 0.0% chance we pass up both McMillan and Johnson for the 2nd best RB in the class.

This is essentially what I'm agreeing with.

I do kind of expect a run at a couple quality RBs in this class.

But I don't think they value RBs to the extent that they'd pass up what are apparently better WR prospects for the second best RB in the draft.

Jeanty on the other hand? I wouldn't be surprised if they took him.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

But I don't think they value RBs to the extent that they'd pass up what are apparently better WR prospects for the second best RB in the draft.

It's not just that but the signing of two RBs kind of makes me feel like they have covered themselves a little more than necessary. If they knew they were taking a RB at 12 in Jeanty or Hampton, that would be overkill.

A third round RB maybe not.

 

[Bipo]

Seeing a lot of mocks where Jeanty doesn't get past Raiders.

 

[ravidubey]

Seeing a lot of mocks where Jeanty doesn't get past Raiders.

Or the Bears

 

[ravidubey]

Jeremiah has us taking Golden in his latest mock, over McMillan, Mykel Williams and Will Johnson.

I'd be pretty surprised with that but wouldn't hate it.

With the depth at RB and DT I don't see a compelling talent at 12 for us unless Jeanty falls (seems unlikely)

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Seeing a lot of mocks where Jeanty doesn't get past Raiders.

Yeah, it definitely seems to be trending in the direction that he won't be available at 12. And that's ok with me. I've always said I'd love to have him on my team. But there is certainly more than one way to skin a cat at RB. And especially at RB in this draft. It's not always this easy but I feel like I could cover my eyes, throw a dart and hit a RB who can start for this team in this particular draft. Lot's of great options.

That is in no way a knock on Jeanty who I think is an excellent prospect. The worst thing I can say about him is that he is a RB and that he had a lot of touches in college. Other than that, I don't have any critiques about the way he plays RB. Every game I watched him I came away impressed. Even the games where his YPC wasn't high, you saw him doing a lot with little. Bouncing off tacklers and getting yards where no yards were there to get. But if it's not Jeanty we can still rather easily solve RB.

My bigger concern is what do you do if you skip WR early in the draft? Do you feel confident about a second or third round receiver being there that can be a legit #2? Is corner a position that is just a disaster waiting to happen? Do you have the big men up the middle on defense to stop anyone from running the ball? These are positions that could become oh shit positions if you don't handle the draft correctly. RB should be an easy one with or without Jeanty.

 

[shoop]

Yeah, it definitely seems to be trending in the direction that he won't be available at 12. And that's ok with me. I've always said I'd love to have him on my team. But there is certainly more than one way to skin a cat at RB. And especially at RB in this draft. It's not always this easy but I feel like I could cover my eyes, throw a dart and hit a RB who can start for this team in this particular draft. Lot's of great options.

That is in no way a knock on Jeanty who I think is an excellent prospect. The worst thing I can say about him is that he is a RB and that he had a lot of touches in college. Other than that, I don't have any critiques about the way he plays RB. Every game I watched him I came away impressed. Even the games where his YPC wasn't high, you saw him doing a lot with little. Bouncing off tacklers and getting yards where no yards were there to get. But if it's not Jeanty we can still rather easily solve RB.

My bigger concern is what do you do if you skip WR early in the draft? Do you feel confident about a second or third round receiver being there that can be a legit #2? Is corner a position that is just a disaster waiting to happen? Do you have the big men up the middle on defense to stop anyone from running the ball? These are positions that could become oh shit positions if you don't handle the draft correctly. RB should be an easy one with or without Jeanty.

I agree on Jeanty. McMillan looks like a real consideration at 12. I personally would like to see a trade down and then take a WR or DT. Way too many RBs in this draft that could be stars.

 

[Simpleton]

With the depth at RB and DT I don't see a compelling talent at 12 for us unless Jeanty falls (seems unlikely)

Graham and Jeanty are the only no-brainers, run the card up types to me, I think guys like McMillan, Johnson, Golden, Harmon, Green and Williams are all roughly in the same tier. Might be forgetting one or two.