The Outrage Thread

[UncleMilti]

Mistakes were made... by everyone. It's laughable that you frame this like no Republican had a hand in any of this. But that's how you obviously see things, the flames are still wiping out homes and businesses and you couldn't wait to fix blame on anyone who's not a Republican. Does it make a difference to you that 47% of the land in southern California is FEDERALLY OWNED? And using your timeframe, 2015 to now, that means the Trump administration is culpable in those very policies that you are correctly calling out as reasons this happened, along with plain ol' weather conditions. FFS, if it was up to some of you, there's someone to blame for SoCal not getting any significant rain in the past 4 months.

Dude….people there didn’t even have CLEAN potable water to drink! I mean give me a fucking break. It’s 2025 and CA has the 4th largest economy in the world….and your citizens don’t even have water to drink??? They have to bus in bottled water???

 

[Cotton]

there's someone to blame for SoCal not getting any significant rain in the past 4 months.

Clear the fucking underbrush. It's that simple.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

Clear the fucking underbrush. It's that simple.

Right, because dry trees don't burn.

 

[UncleMilti]

I never said previous Republicans weren’t culpable, but there haven’t been R’s in charge lately …you can’t spin the craziness that’s gone on in that state for the last 20 years. The craziness has led to a terrible ending, and it’s pretty evident there’s a need for wholesale change in leadership, thought process, and accountability.

 

[UncleMilti]

Right, because dry trees don't burn.

Come on Irv you’re one of the smartest dudes on here you know that’s a ridiculous statement right there. Of course dried trees burn but you know dried under brush that’s been drying out in the heat for months and months and months is like fucking tissue paper for flames.

 

[Cotton]

Right, because dry trees don't burn.

Dry kindling at their trunks makes it 100 times worse.

 

[Smitty]

The Democrats and their voters are 1000 times more responsible for what has happened in California than Republicans.

Irv has been poisoned with Trump derangement syndrome so he'll pretend it's just as much Republicans fault even though Democrats have controlled California for a political generation.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I guess every state that clears out their undergrowth is just batshit crazy and wasting their time. You know, since it doesn't really make any difference.

Also, anyone notice Jon Stewart actually used withholding disaster relief from a hurricane in a southern state as an example of something democrats would never do?

 

[Irving Cowboy]

I guess every state that clears out their undergrowth is just batshit crazy and wasting their time. You know, since it doesn't really make any difference.

What states are those? Serious question.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

What states are those? Serious question.

I know Colorado does it. Pretty sure Texas does it.

If the state doesn't do the work itself, they at least allow the power companies to do it without keeping the environmental freaks from stopping them.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

I know Colorado does it. Pretty sure Texas does it.

I don't think you should use Colorado as an example... this happened while Mr. "Rake the forest" Trump was in office:

"Colorado's largest wildfire was the 2020 Cameron Peak Fire here in Larimer County. It burned nearly 209,000 acres, almost nine times the area of the Palisade Fire. "

And I don't think that Texas is well-known for its vast forest area...

 

[NoDak]

I know Colorado does it. Pretty sure Texas does it.

If the state doesn't do the work itself, they at least allow the power companies to do it without keeping the environmental freaks from stopping them.

North Dakota does it too, through the Badlands anyway. I don't know if they do along Lake Sakakawea through the Missouri River Valley. Every 2-3 years, they clear underbrush and have controlled burns. The state pays, and is subsidized by oil companies that have oil leases in the area. The more leases, the more their share. They gladly pay it, because if a fire raged through that area...? A lot of oil wells on the north flat would be gone.

 

[NoDak]

this happened while Mr. "Rake the forest" Trump was in office:

It always circles back to this.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

It always circles back to this.

Same goes for some of you here... fires are still raging and the blame game is in full effect.

 

[Smitty]

Yes, the people in charge in perpetuity being blamed for a foreseeable catastrophe is so unreasonable on our part.

 

[Genghis Khan]

 

[Chocolate Lab]

North Dakota does it too, through the Badlands anyway. I don't know if they do along Lake Sakakawea through the Missouri River Valley. Every 2-3 years, they clear underbrush and have controlled burns. The state pays, and is subsidized by oil companies that have oil leases in the area. The more leases, the more their share. They gladly pay it, because if a fire raged through that area...? A lot of oil wells on the north flat would be gone.

Yes, I know for a fact Colorado does controlled burns, too. I've been there when they're doing them.

Now maybe that can't be done in residential areas, but I know your insurance company will basically force the homeowner to clear the brush anywhere near your house it or you can lose coverage, have your premiums skyrocket, etc. And that's Colorado, which has its share of environmental nuts. But nothing like California.

 

[NoDak]

Same goes for some of you here... fires are still raging and the blame game is in full effect.

Not even comparable. You are ate up by one man. One man controls your mind. The people in this thread are arguing against policy over a large period of time, which involves many, many people. Not one man. And those policies are very hard to defend. Unky gave some good examples of them. Yet you defend them. Why? Because of being absolutely fucking brain cramped. Over one man.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

Not even comparable. You are ate up by one man. One man controls your mind. The people in this thread are arguing against policy over a large period of time, which involves many, many people. Not one man. And those policies are very hard to defend. Unky gave some good examples of them. Yet you defend them. Why? Because of being absolutely fucking brain cramped. Over one man.

Oh stop... I'm not defending shit. I'm saying that there were a lot of people of many political persuasions who made decisions that put California in the situation they are in now. Unk, while pointing out those decisions, also attributed them to only one party, which is incorrect.

 

[NoDak]

Oh stop... I'm not defending shit. I'm saying that there were a lot of people of many political persuasions who made decisions that put California in the situation they are in now. Unk, while pointing out those decisions, also attributed them to only one party, which is incorrect.

Which party has had control in California for quite some time now? I'm not seeing how some Republican mayor or councilman in northern California has much sway on policy in Orange County. Or in the Palisades area.

Maybe you can explain that to us.