2024 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

[mcnuttz]

We're already getting lapped!!!!

 

[boozeman]

 

[Stars]

He's seriously the worst. Condescending old ghoul.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Just listened to the interview. The hosts actually asked some good questions:

What about Philly paying their QB and all these players, unlike you? They're in good position now but they'll pay for it in the future.

About bringing Mike back: Not getting into that before the season is over, like always. But I've been considering this for several weeks now.

Is he worried about Mike being a free agent and wanting to come back? I'm not worried about Mike. (Pretty dismissive.)

How he would sell this team next year if MM comes back? Getting Dak back, having Lamb, young OL being better, all young players being better. :beatsheadagainstwall

Zimmer's PC saying he wishes he'd done things differently? That's good, some of the best coaches I've been around are the first to admit mistakes. Nobody has more confidence in himself than Zimmer.

What about all the other coaches besides MM not being under contract? Most people in this world don't have guaranteed contracts. I think most people perform better that way.

McClay is in the last year of his deal, worried about losing him at all? I give shorter contracts to everyone, probably more than they'd like, but we'll deal with whatever happens. (Phone cuts out while he's talking here but that's the sentiment.)

 

[Genghis Khan]

 

[Genghis Khan]

Just listened to the interview. The hosts actually asked some good questions:

What about Philly paying their QB and all these players, unlike you? They're in good position now but they'll pay for it in the future.

About bringing Mike back: Not getting into that before the season is over, like always.

Is he worried about Mike being a free agent and wanting to come back? I'm not worried about Mike. (Pretty dismissive.)

How he would sell this team next year if MM comes back? Getting Dak back, having Lamb, young OL being better, all young players being better. :beatsheadagainstwall

Zimmer's PC saying he wishes he'd done things differently? That's good, some of the best coaches I've been around are the first to admit mistakes. Nobody has more confidence in himself than Zimmer.

What about all the other coaches besides MM not being under contract? Most people in this world don't have guaranteed contracts. I think most people perform better that way.

McClay is in the last year of his deal, worried about losing him at all? I give shorter contracts to everyone, probably more than they'd like, but we'll deal with whatever happens. (Phone cuts out while he's talking here but that's the sentiment.)

I'm torn between propping you for the information and being pissed off about the contents.

He's just so fucking dumb. We're never going to win.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'm torn between propping you for the information and being pissed off about the contents.

He's just so fucking dumb. We're never going to win.

I understood the "angry" reaction.

And I felt the same way. Jerry was calm enough and not an asshole today, but it totally sounded like the same old, same old: Not much free agency (although he didn't actually speak on that), the cap is still an issue, improvement comes from within, etc. And he didn't sound worried one way or another about the coaching situation. I can't read if he wants Mike back or not. My take would be that he's not concerned about it either way. We always have to remember that Jerry does not value the position of head coach. He probably figures that if Mike is gone, plenty of people want to coach here.

Oh and that Jerry/coal pic is still pure gold.

 

[Cotton]

Man, go fuck yourself.

 

[NoDak]

Oh and that Jerry/coal pic is still pure gold.

Jerry's all about fossil fuels. He'd take that pic as a compliment.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Jerry's all about fossil fuels. He'd take that pic as a compliment.

You're right in that he'd sell it to us as what a great gift he was giving us. This substance helped fuel the industrial revolution! It keeps our lights on! Be grateful, peasant!

 

[Texas Ace]

What an inconsiderate dick.

 

[GShock]

Never happen. Let's be real here. If offered, he will remain the head coach of arguably the most visible sports franchise in the world. At the very least, the most visible NFL team. It's a win/win. If he gets them over the hump, he's forever revered. If not, he still stands to make millions, in a place he's already established.

As fans it's easy to say "Fuck Jerry. I'd never do it. I'd just get another job somewhere else." Well, it's not that easy. Who is offering this job? The perennial loser Chicago Bears? Maybe that powerhouse Browns team? That NY Jets job sounds like a dream landing spot. The London Jaguars? Point being, not only is Dallas the better job, they are a hell of a lot closer to competing than the above mentioned, and probably any other team that would be looking to hire him.

It's not like Fat Mike has a lot of coaching years left in him. He's not looking for a 5 year rebuild. And certainly not one where the ownership/front office is just as toxic as Dallas' is thought to be.

I imagine it's a bit complicated.

This is likely his last contract. McCarthy has seen enough to know that he can't control legacy. Everyone can do everything right, you can go undefeated, and your QB can blow out his achilles stepping onto the Super Bowl field. Just as obviously, he won't have anything close to that here, or anywhere else he might get a job. He has his Super Bowl win. I am sure he would love another. But I think he knows just how much that is out of his control, ego notwithstanding.

So he can't control outcome, but he can decide the work/money balance. Any team will be be dysfunctional in some regard, but he knows the dysfunction in Dallas. He knows the reality that Jerry isn't about winning and won't spend the money to improve the odds of winning a Super Bowl. Can he live with that? Probably. He has for the past 5 years. And Jerry quiet quitting won't take away Mike's Super Bowl trophy.

So then it's a question of value. Is 3 years/18M adequate for the Dallas dysfunction? Does Jerry offer that much? If an objectively worse job offers more guaranteed money, how much more would be needed to leave his dysfunctional comfort zone?

We know Jerry will be as cheap as he possibly can be, McCarthy will want to squeeze every dollar out of this next contract, and both will probably be ok moving on. At the same time, it wouldn't be surprising if they are the couple who ends up together for the next couple of years because neither one is willing to make the effort to upset the status quo.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I imagine it's a bit complicated.

This is likely his last contract. McCarthy has seen enough to know that he can't control legacy. Everyone can do everything right, you can go undefeated, and your QB can blow out his achilles stepping onto the Super Bowl field. Just as obviously, he won't have anything close to that here, or anywhere else he might get a job. He has his Super Bowl win. I am sure he would love another. But I think he knows just how much that is out of his control, ego notwithstanding.

So he can't control outcome, but he can decide the work/money balance. Any team will be be dysfunctional in some regard, but he knows the dysfunction in Dallas. He knows the reality that Jerry isn't about winning and won't spend the money to improve the odds of winning a Super Bowl. Can he live with that? Probably. He has for the past 5 years. And Jerry quiet quitting won't take away Mike's Super Bowl trophy.

So then it's a question of value. Is 3 years/18M adequate for the Dallas dysfunction? Does Jerry offer that much? If an objectively worse job offers more guaranteed money, how much more would be needed to leave his dysfunctional comfort zone?

We know Jerry will be as cheap as he possibly can be, McCarthy will want to squeeze every dollar out of this next contract, and both will probably be ok moving on. At the same time, it wouldn't be surprising if they are the couple who ends up together for the next couple of years because neither one is willing to make the effort to upset the status quo.

Good post. Said it before, but if Mike were younger and/or more career-focused like a Parcells or Sean Payton, I think he'd be gone because he'll naturally get a longer leash at a new stop.

But on the other hand, those guys did like the "big room" or prestige aspect of coaching the Dallas Cowboys, and I doubt Mike cares about that at all, at least not anymore. I think he just wants to coach, and in that regard would be just as happy at a New Orleans or Jacksonville. Maybe even more so after experiencing this circus.

 

[NoDak]

I think he just wants to coach, and in that regard would be just as happy at a New Orleans or Jacksonville. Maybe even more so after experiencing this circus.

I don't believe that. Regardless of what kind of personality these coaches display... Laid back, fiery, or whatever, they all still want to win. And the only reason I see an established coach taking a dumpster fire job would be if they were paid a shit load of money and given complete autonomy. And I sincerely doubt he'd be offered that. Especially considering his age.

 

[Genghis Khan]

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I don't believe that. Regardless of what kind of personality these coaches display... Laid back, fiery, or whatever, they all still want to win. And the only reason I see an established coach taking a dumpster fire job would be if they were paid a shit load of money and given complete autonomy. And I sincerely doubt he'd be offered that. Especially considering his age.

Why are they dumpster fire jobs? They both have decent QBs, although Carr isn't young anymore.

To me a dumpster fire job is a place with a bad QB and no prospect of getting a good one. Maybe Carolina, or the Jets.

 

[NoDak]

Why are they dumpster fire jobs? They both have decent QBs, although Carr isn't young anymore.

To me a dumpster fire job is a place with a bad QB and no prospect of getting a good one. Maybe Carolina, or the Jets.

Dumpster fire might be a little harsh with New Orleans, but I think it fits with Jacksonville. Their owner is just as bad if not worse than Jerry, imo. And the constant trips to Europe? No thanks.

And I was also including teams like the Bears, Jets, Browns, etc... in that comment. Since they are always in the coaching carousel.

 

[Cujo]

I'm sorry but that's unacceptable. You can't run a team like that. I mean you can, but you'll always eventually fail. Not allowing coaches to do their own thing is stupid. There's no reason to hire coaches and then place, or insinuate, that you want to do some of the things that the coaches that were previously here did. Rip the bandaid off. Everyone that coaches here, is hamstrung by past successes or failures by the Jones mafia.

It's so damn frustrating. And honestly, anyone that works here is somewhat to blame. You mean to tell me that Zimmer didn't know that was part of the deal when he came back here? Ridiculous. And then he laments that he shouldn't have compromised his ideals? I kinda feel bad, but not really.

Why can't we just have a non-toxic, non-dysfunctional team? I know... I know.

It is such an insular environment, they're probably unaware anything is amiss. It's going to take a coach that is willing to stand up to Jerry and say, "Fuck you, if you want me, I'm doing it my way," but they all seem so passive.

 

[boozeman]

 

[Cujo]

Man, go fuck yourself.

With a splintery broom handle.