2024 College Football Chatter

[dpf1123]

Abdul Carter is tearing it up against Washington.

 

[Texas Ace]

Abdul Carter is tearing it up against Washington.

That's the only top 5 player I take over Travis Hunter.

 

[Cujo]

Lot of really dumb penalties by Colorado, especially in this 4th quarter.

If I was a Colorado fan, I would've been losing my mind. Stupid fucking penalties.

 

[Simpleton]

Abdul Carter is tearing it up against Washington.

He's been going nuts the last few weeks as it seems the light has come on as a full-time edge rusher.

He might be getting close to the level of prospect that Will Anderson Jr. was.

 

[1bigfan13]

Jackson Arnold is firmly cemented in my top 5 list of dumbest QBs who are currently active.

I turned off the OU game when they were trailing 10-9 in the 3rd qtr because I was fed up watching that train wreck of an offense. I turned on a movie and just scoreboard watched the rest of the way. So thankfully I didn't watch the brutal ending to that game live.

Once this season ends, I never want to see that guy in an OU uniform again. He needs to be the first one in the transfer portal when it opens.

Honestly OU needs to clean house from top to bottom. Venables has done a good job with the defense but 3 years into his coaching career, he's still struggling with basic components of game management.

One prime example came early in the game yesterday. OU's offense was struggling, as usual. So OU ran a fake punt that worked and went for ~40 yards. They had the ball 1st and goal form the 9 after the play. Instead of making sure his players got lined up to run the next play, this dude is running around celebrating the fake punt like he's a normal fan.

OU ends up getting a delay of game because Venables is too busy celebrating to notice the play clock is expiring. Sooners backed up 5 yards. Now it's 1st and goal from the 14. Very next play Arnold takes a sack. IIRC 2nd down is another sack. Now it's 3rd and goal from somewhere around the 30 and they end up having to settle for a FG.

Momentum completely wasted because the HC wants to be a cheerleader instead of doing his damn job. They had three timeouts in their pocket, too. No excuse not to have an eye on the play clock and use a timeout in that situation.

When your QB and offense are as bad as the Sooners offense has been this year, the coaching staff absolutely cannot drop the ball like that and put their team in a deeper hole.

If it were up to me I'd buy Venables out and send him packing. Two losing seasons in three years for Venables is unacceptable. OL coach Bill Bedenbaugh seems to be a fan favorite but his lines haven't been good the last 4 seasons. Therefore, he needs to go as well. If cleaning house means losing recruits, so be it. Indiana's new coach used the Deion Sanders model and brought in 40 new players and in year 1 his team is 10-0.

Sooners fans @Cujo @Chocolate Lab @L.T. Fan do you agree that Venables should be shown the door or am I being too hard on him?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Sooners fans @Cujo @Chocolate Lab @L.T. Fan do you agree that Venables should be shown the door or am I being too hard on him?

No, I was telling someone that I don't ever remember a team looking this disorganized and ineffective in two out of the three phases three years in. The WR injuries were a disaster and somehow the OL is a total wreck (maybe some NIL and other missteps I'm not sure of there) but that doesn't excuse everything else. You can't just be a good DC and that be enough to be a good HC at this level.

I'm sure they'll hire a big name OC next year and hope that fixes everything but I don't think it will.

 

[1bigfan13]

No, I was telling someone that I don't ever remember a team looking this disorganized and ineffective in two out of the three phases three years in. The WR injuries were a disaster and somehow the OL is a total wreck (maybe some NIL and other missteps I'm not sure of there) but that doesn't excuse everything else. You can't just be a good DC and that be enough to be a good HC at this level.

I'm sure they'll hire a big name OC next year and hope that fixes everything but I don't think it will.

Yeah, I think the AD views Venables as family/OU royalty so he's going to get a longer leash than he's earned. Like you said, it feels like they're going to talk themselves into thinking an OC will fix all their issues but their issues go far beyond the shitty offensive schemes.

Minus the defense, the entire team is poorly coached. I've never seen an OU team look this disorganized and mistake prone. This is John Blake era Sooners football. Honestly Blake's teams would probably beat this one.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Yeah, I think the AD views Venables as family/OU royalty so he's going to get a longer leash than he's earned. Like you said, it feels like they're going to talk themselves into thinking an OC will fix all their issues but their issues go far beyond the shitty offensive schemes.

Minus the defense, the entire team is poorly coached. I've never seen an OU team look this disorganized and mistake prone. This is John Blake era Sooners football. Honestly Blake's teams would probably beat this one.

I'm not a super hardcore OU lifer fan, so I don't know all the inner workings and all, but it seems like Castiglione is seen as a near-god and almost untouchable. But to me, he should answer for this hire. I personally hate these "family" type hires -- just seems like they almost never work out. BV is such a likable guy, but that doesn't matter, and neither does it that he was a Stoops Guy. I think you have to be ruthlessly objective about these hires and Joe C obviously wasn't. Turns out there's probably a good reason why a guy BV's age had never been offered a HC job before.

 

[Cujo]

Jackson Arnold is firmly cemented in my top 5 list of dumbest QBs who are currently active.

I turned off the OU game when they were trailing 10-9 in the 3rd qtr because I was fed up watching that train wreck of an offense. I turned on a movie and just scoreboard watched the rest of the way. So thankfully I didn't watch the brutal ending to that game live.

Once this season ends, I never want to see that guy in an OU uniform again. He needs to be the first one in the transfer portal when it opens.

Honestly OU needs to clean house from top to bottom. Venables has done a good job with the defense but 3 years into his coaching career, he's still struggling with basic components of game management.

One prime example came early in the game yesterday. OU's offense was struggling, as usual. So OU ran a fake punt that worked and went for ~40 yards. They had the ball 1st and goal form the 9 after the play. Instead of making sure his players got lined up to run the next play, this dude is running around celebrating the fake punt like he's a normal fan.

OU ends up getting a delay of game because Venables is too busy celebrating to notice the play clock is expiring. Sooners backed up 5 yards. Now it's 1st and goal from the 14. Very next play Arnold takes a sack. IIRC 2nd down is another sack. Now it's 3rd and goal from somewhere around the 30 and they end up having to settle for a FG.

Momentum completely wasted because the HC wants to be a cheerleader instead of doing his damn job. They had three timeouts in their pocket, too. No excuse not to have an eye on the play clock and use a timeout in that situation.

When your QB and offense are as bad as the Sooners offense has been this year, the coaching staff absolutely cannot drop the ball like that and put their team in a deeper hole.

If it were up to me I'd buy Venables out and send him packing. Two losing seasons in three years for Venables is unacceptable. OL coach Bill Bedenbaugh seems to be a fan favorite but his lines haven't been good the last 4 seasons. Therefore, he needs to go as well. If cleaning house means losing recruits, so be it. Indiana's new coach used the Deion Sanders model and brought in 40 new players and in year 1 his team is 10-0.

Sooners fans @Cujo @Chocolate Lab @L.T. Fan do you agree that Venables should be shown the door or am I being too hard on him?

I'm unsure. I think you make some very good points but JA not panning out has severely handicapped him and they've had so many injuries. I think Arnold should definitely be shown the door, though. It's a shame we don't have an offense to go with this defense, because he has done a good job of building that.

 

[1bigfan13]

It's a shame we don't have an offense to go with this defense, because he has done a good job of building that.

I'd like some real closure on Dillon Gabriel situation.

I know Venables came out and said that OU didn't encourage DG to transfer, and Gabriel pretty much blew off the question when he was asked about it. I just want to know did the OU coaching staff make an honest effort to convince Gabriel to return.

Based on every decision I've seen from Venables, my guess is no. Feels like it was another bad decision on his part......despite the mountain of evidence that clearly showed that Gabriel was a far superior QB.

Imagine watching those two QBs in games and practice for an entire year and still choosing JA.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I thought I read that Gabriel got paid a lot more by Oregon anyway, so he wanted to leave. That Phil Knight NIL money is going to make them tough.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Jackson Arnold is firmly cemented in my top 5 list of dumbest QBs who are currently active.

I turned off the OU game when they were trailing 10-9 in the 3rd qtr because I was fed up watching that train wreck of an offense. I turned on a movie and just scoreboard watched the rest of the way. So thankfully I didn't watch the brutal ending to that game live.

Once this season ends, I never want to see that guy in an OU uniform again. He needs to be the first one in the transfer portal when it opens.

Honestly OU needs to clean house from top to bottom. Venables has done a good job with the defense but 3 years into his coaching career, he's still struggling with basic components of game management.

One prime example came early in the game yesterday. OU's offense was struggling, as usual. So OU ran a fake punt that worked and went for ~40 yards. They had the ball 1st and goal form the 9 after the play. Instead of making sure his players got lined up to run the next play, this dude is running around celebrating the fake punt like he's a normal fan.

OU ends up getting a delay of game because Venables is too busy celebrating to notice the play clock is expiring. Sooners backed up 5 yards. Now it's 1st and goal from the 14. Very next play Arnold takes a sack. IIRC 2nd down is another sack. Now it's 3rd and goal from somewhere around the 30 and they end up having to settle for a FG.

Momentum completely wasted because the HC wants to be a cheerleader instead of doing his damn job. They had three timeouts in their pocket, too. No excuse not to have an eye on the play clock and use a timeout in that situation.

When your QB and offense are as bad as the Sooners offense has been this year, the coaching staff absolutely cannot drop the ball like that and put their team in a deeper hole.

If it were up to me I'd buy Venables out and send him packing. Two losing seasons in three years for Venables is unacceptable. OL coach Bill Bedenbaugh seems to be a fan favorite but his lines haven't been good the last 4 seasons. Therefore, he needs to go as well. If cleaning house means losing recruits, so be it. Indiana's new coach used the Deion Sanders model and brought in 40 new players and in year 1 his team is 10-0.

Sooners fans @Cujo @Chocolate Lab @L.T. Fan do you agree that Venables should be shown the door or am I being too hard on him?

I most assuredly agree the Sooner organization needs to take a big broom and start with the coaching staff. They have just moved to a tough conference and if the Oklahoma football Sooners keeps any part of the current perception they will find it very difficult to recruit the talent required to play with the current conference contenders. The reputation they have currently will soon turn into a whipping boy exercise.. I am appalled to see what is happening on the field with the offensive side of the ball. They will eventually but rapidly drag the entire system down to become a perennially loser posture. Get the broom now!

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I most assuredly agree the Sooner organization needs to take a big broom and start with the coaching staff. They have just moved to a tough conference and if the Oklahoma football Sooners keeps any part of the current perception they will find it very difficult to recruit the talent required to play with the current conference contenders. The reputation they have currently will soon turn into a whipping boy exercise.. I am appalled to see what is happening on the field with the offensive side of the ball. They will eventually but rapidly drag the entire system down to become a perennially loser posture. Get the broom now!

In all fairness recruiting is just going to become about money.

 

[L.T. Fan]

In all fairness recruiting is just going to become about money.

In all fairness recruiting is just going to become about money.

Talented players however even at the college level do not like to just play for money. They want to be with a talented system because that is where the recognition gets the most attention for the Pro ranks. The money is considerably greater if you came through a winning program.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Talented players however even at the college level do not like to just play for money. They want to be with a talented system because that is where the recognition gets the most attention for the Pro ranks. The money is considerably greater if you came through a winning program.

Yeah, but the programs with the most money are going to have the most talent also.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Talented players however even at the college level do not like to just play for money. They want to be with a talented system because that is where the recognition gets the most attention for the Pro ranks. The money is considerably greater if you came through a winning program.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Yeah, but the programs with the most money are going to have the most talent also.

I think that’s the point I am trying to make. Thank you.

 

[boozeman]

Nine seasons? That is some Garrett-level survival skills for .500 ball.

 

[Rev]

Nine seasons? That is some Garrett-level survival skills for .500 ball.

not even .500 ball. Garrett only wishes he could have that kind of skill.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Nine seasons? That is some Garrett-level survival skills for .500 ball.

It's also Ball State, one of the worst and probably most cash-poor programs out there, not the mint that Jerry owns.