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boozeman said:
I think he was busy drafting busts of his own in Miami.
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He certainly missed on some high profile players like Yatil Green took some shots he didn't need to, like with John Avery, but for every big miss, he got players like Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas in the 3rd and 5th rounds. Drafting HOF players in back-to-back years doesn't suck. Johnson honestly turned Miami's defense around.
 
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ravidubey said:
He certainly missed on some high profile players like Yatil Green took some shots he didn't need to, like with John Avery, but for every big miss, he got players like Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas in the 3rd and 5th rounds. Drafting HOF players in back-to-back years doesn't suck. Johnson honestly turned Miami's defense around.
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He never solved the offense. Not at QB. Not at WR. Not at RB. Not with the OL.
 
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boozeman said:
He never solved the offense. Not at QB. Not at WR. Not at RB. Not with the OL.
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That was the downfall. He had to bet on Dan Marino, Richmond Webb and their solid center Tim Ruddy to make up for misses on Green and Avery. They had journeymen at WR, and Abdul-Jabbar was just acceptable at RB. Marino was basically done.
 
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Genghis Khan said:
Huh? He's clearly a HOFer.
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p1_ said:
I almost thought Phil was being sarcastic.
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I’ve never looked at his career or highlights. Only seen his reverse SB TD run.

He has four elite years with several solid years, never hear people saying this new RB is the new Marcus Allen or anything. Never mentioned in Top 5 RB lists. Just under-the-radar and don’t know anything really about him.

If he never had those seasons with the Chiefs, would he still be a HOFer?
 
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I’ve never looked at his career or highlights. Only seen his reverse SB TD run.

He has four elite years with several solid years, never hear people saying this new RB is the new Marcus Allen or anything. Never mentioned in Top 5 RB lists. Just under-the-radar and don’t know anything really about him.

If he never had those seasons with the Chiefs, would he still be a HOFer?
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Best seasons were as a Raider. See 1985.
 
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I’ve never looked at his career or highlights. Only seen his reverse SB TD run.

He has four elite years with several solid years, never hear people saying this new RB is the new Marcus Allen or anything. Never mentioned in Top 5 RB lists. Just under-the-radar and don’t know anything really about him.

If he never had those seasons with the Chiefs, would he still be a HOFer?
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He was a great rusher, did everything— caught, ran, blocked, total team player. Perfected TD dives. Super Bowl MVP, a star deep into the playoffs on multiple teams. #14 all time just higher than Franco Harris.

When Al Davis fell in love with Bo Jackson, Allen took a backseat for the team. Would have stayed a Raider until he retired had he not crossed Davis.
 
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I’ve never looked at his career or highlights. Only seen his reverse SB TD run.

He has four elite years with several solid years, never hear people saying this new RB is the new Marcus Allen or anything. Never mentioned in Top 5 RB lists. Just under-the-radar and don’t know anything really about him.

If he never had those seasons with the Chiefs, would he still be a HOFer?
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In my mind yes. He was fantastic at his peak, one of the top couple running backs in an era when there were a lot of good ones. Probably behind only Eric Dickerson unless I'm forgetting someone (guys like Payton and Dorsett overlapped but probably were in their primes before Allen came into the league).
 
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boozeman said:
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Randy Moss-ish 2.0 for me.

Fresh from Troy Hambone’s year. Steven Jackson, far and away best and only Tier 1 RB prospect, slips and falls ~10 spots right into our lap. Jerruh, tempted by the deep Tier 2 cadre of RBs, gets cute and trades out of the 1st with goal to trade back up and come out net picks positive.

Failed to trade back up, watches RB after RB after RB selected and is ‘lucky’ to land the last Tier 2 RB, Julius Jones.

That was my last straw with GM Jerruh.
 
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I actually loved that they traded back for that future first. Sucked that Buffalo had to pick that year to have a good year, but still, it was the right decision and one of the few ways to get ahead.
 
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We were never picking him, but that year I was channeling @ravidubey and wanted Vince Wilfork or Steven Jackson. Patriots one spot in front of us made that a fantasy.

 
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Chocolate Lab said:
I actually loved that they traded back for that future first. Sucked that Buffalo had to pick that year to have a good year, but still, it was the right decision and one of the few ways to get ahead.
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Value-wise, the trade had merit, but Steven Jackson was a Bradie Bottle Lock for me. I was sweating ass nuggets once the draft got in the teens and he kept slipping to us. All that euphoria when he reached us at #22 to see it traded away. :lol Cursed Jerruh and stormed out my friends house.

To this day, I haven’t sweated it more for a slipping player that actually reached us, even more so than CeeDee Lamb.

Looking back on it:
Steven Jackson
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Julius Jones, Sean Ryan, Marcus Spears
 
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To this day, I haven’t sweated it more for a slipping player that actually reached us, even more so than CeeDee Lamb.
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I was sweating out the Spears pick the same way. :lol :doh
 
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