2023 Season | Wildcard Sunday | Packers at Cowboys | Gameday Chatter thread | 1/14/2024

[Rev]

Yep. Basically a safety/LB but neither.

Well, fuck. He already has the Longhorn shit going against him and now you add that to the list.

 

[Couchcoach]

I didn't think there was any way we lose to GB.
And I know it's a dead horse issue, but I kept thinking all week " we didn't beat anybody all season "

 

[Genghis Khan]

Wow.

 

[Simpleton]

I didn't think there was any way we lose to GB.
And I know it's a dead horse issue, but I kept thinking all week " we didn't beat anybody all season "

We beat plenty of teams as good or better than Green Bay. This wasn't some "aha!" moment where we realize the team actually sucks, this was a very good team, a better team than Green Bay who lost because they're mentally fragile and came in listless, unprepared and possibly overlooking the opponent.

 

[Couchcoach]

So you're mad at 1big for, what, not predicting that debacle yesterday? No one expected that.

No, not at all. I just felt like he minimalized our poor play down the stretch

 

[1bigfan13]

So you're mad at 1big for, what, not predicting that debacle yesterday? No one expected that.

I'm still waiting on them to show me proof of this sunshine pumping after late season losses.

There's a handy search tool in the upper right of the website. Show me or move on to another target to air your Cowboys frustrations.

There's only 3 late season losses to choose from. I've already conceded to overlooking the Philly loss. But hell most Cowboys fans are guilty of that one because that was a game they should have won.

The other two are the Bills and Dolphins games

 

[Cujo]

That's such bullshit. Dak didn't play well, but he doesn't play defense. No excuses for the defense. Get a stop. Don't allow Green Bay to use up half the first quarter and drive down the filed for an easy TD. And even after a turnover and a short field it doesn't have to be a TD. Hold them to a FG. I mean 1st and goal at the 16 and 2 plays later an easy TD. Right then and there we were in big trouble and there was nothing Dak could've did about it because Green Bay scored the next 3 drives.

The air was out of the defenses sails before this game even started.

It's not bullshit at all. They've repeatedly seen him lie down in big games. We've noticed it, you think they haven't? I'm not saying the defense doesn't shoulder some of the blame., absolutely they do. But Dak is not a guy who is going to put a team on his shoulders, fire them up, and will them to victory.

 

[boozeman]

We beat plenty of teams as good or better than Green Bay. This wasn't some "aha!" moment where we realize the team actually sucks, this was a very good team, a better team than Green Bay who lost because they're mentally fragile and came in listless, unprepared and possibly overlooking the opponent.

They also were a bad matchup. In retrospect all LaFleur had to do was run the Metrosexual offense right at Quinn’s defense.

 

[Couchcoach]

Yeah, I doubt that was me.

No way in hell I came out of the Buffalo and Miami losses waving pom-poms.

My bad, apparently it wasn't you

 

[Chocolate Lab]

They also were a bad matchup. In retrospect all LaFleur had to do was run the Metrosexual offense right at Quinn’s defense.

 

[Tony D]

The defense was horrific, there is no doubt about that.

But that is independent of Dak's suckage. Heard the stat that until it was 27-7, Dak had thrown for 61 yards with two INTs, including a pick-six.

Right, the defense gave up 3 TD's on 4 drives. And it wasn't like they were 3 tough drives. They were easy. Big chunks on 1st and 2nd down. They played ahead of the chains all day long. Blame Dak all you want, he deserves it, but this was so bad defensively I still can't believe it. You all expect Dak to shit the bed, but this defense under Quinn yesterday? That was somewhat shocking. Quinn was so bad with his personnel dude will be lucky to have a job and wherever he is good luck.

 

[Simpleton]

They also were a bad matchup. In retrospect all LaFleur had to do was run the Metrosexual offense right at Quinn’s defense.

Maybe but the defense played decent to very good against other Shannahan tree offenses (Rams and Miami) prior.

Quinn may have been mentally checked out, I don't really know, but the team was obviously unprepared and unable to handle the expectations of being a big favorite.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Yeah, I just don't see how anyone could defend him. Frankly, I don't care if it takes 5 years to find another qb.

Sadly though it could take decades. When is the last time Chicago had a great QB for example? Or KC before Mahomes? Or the Raiders? Or the Jets before Rodgers? Or Buffalo since Kelly? Etc.

We've been charmed at QB as a franchise.

 

[boozeman]

It's not bullshit at all. They've repeatedly seen him lie down in big games. We've noticed it, you think they haven't? I'm not saying the defense doesn't shoulder some of the blame., absolutely they do. But Dak is not a guy who is going to put a team on his shoulders, fire them up, and will them to victory.

It is pretty clear he has the choking thing is effect but he has also taken the team on his back (the last time we lost to GB in the playoffs). He goes as the team goes. And our game plan was trash.

 

[boozeman]

Maybe but the defense played decent to very good against other Shannahan tree offenses (Rams and Miami) prior.

Quinn may have been mentally checked out, I don't really know, but the team was obviously unprepared and unable to handle the expectations of being a big favorite.

I am sure he spent as much time thinking about his next job than preparing that defense for the game.

 

[Cujo]

The defense was awful. No question.

But this notion that there's nothing Dak could do about that? I don't know.

Dak is like 20% of the team's salary cap. How about match the Packers score for score? That's why he's getting elite money.

They want a shootout, give them a shootout. Score TDs on the next 3 drives also. Keep your team in the game. The Packers defense isn't exactly the 85 Bears.

Instead he turtled.

Exactly. His body language suggested he was defeated before the 2nd quarter.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I would do cartwheels to the moon and back if we traded him and got even ONE first round pick for him in return.

I'd hesitate to trade him for a single first.

I think some of you guys are blinded by yesterday at the moment. He's probably going to end up like 2nd or third in the MVP voting. He ain't Wentz.

He'd command quite a lot.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Knowing our idiotic brain trust, we would start the bidding with a fifth rounder. You honestly think we have a smart enough front office to get anything close to that?

God damnit you're right.

 

[boozeman]

I'd hesitate to trade him for a single first.

I think some of you guys are blinded by yesterday at the moment. He's probably going to end up like 2nd or third in the MVP voting. He ain't Wentz.

He'd command quite a lot.

In an alternate reality where this organization is run by somebody else, yes.

 

[Tony D]

I blame them all. McCarthy, Dak, Quinn, Micah, the defense as a whole, Jerry, trainers, team security, the cheerleaders, the PA guy, everyone else you can think of.

My only issue with what you are saying is that you seem to be absolving Dak for some of this.

Basically your argument seems to be, the coaching sucked what do you want Dak to do?

I want him to play like the elite QB he's being paid to be. The coaches sucked too, but they didn't throw those picks and those off target passes and take bad sacks when he should have thrown it away, and so forth.

Not absolving him at all. It was a group effort offensively. The scheme/playcalling did him no favors is all I'm saying. He made some bad throws absolutely, but man there weren't many guys getting open. Even those passes to Ferguson over the middle were covered.