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boozeman

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It always amazes me that most of these sick fucks have a history of posting extreme shit online where many people read the shit. You know the FBI has been flagged on it, yet they are rarely stopped before they carry these things out.

This isn’t 1970. There isn’t a single thing that happens in this country that the FBI doesn’t know about before it happens. With the surveillance capabilities they possess nowadays, the only logical reason I see for most of this shit not being thwarted is the ability to illegally surveil citizens is way more important than admitting they do it by stopping it.
You must be one of those people that believes that the stuff you see in CSI is being used right now by competent people no less. The FBI is a lazy organization that like everything else now, has a political flavor more than it is about protecting the citizens from crazy people.
 

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What’s your grand plan for getting criminals to turn in their guns?
I don’t think that is viable, not in this country. I think some measure that makes it a leeeeetle harder to get an military grade weapon would be at least a start. The truly insane will find a way. But if it gets a weaker insane person to not go shoot up a mall, isn’t that a start?
 

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I don’t think that is viable, not in this country. I think some measure that makes it a leeeeetle harder to get an military grade weapon would be at least a start. The truly insane will find a way. But if it gets a weaker insane person to not go shoot up a mall, isn’t that a start?
I mean that probably needs to be the goal. You're not going to prevent shootings and killings in their entirety. You're just hoping to reduce them. Have some measure of impact. I mean this last shooting in Texas the guy was a security guard, he had formal gun training. You're probably not stopping that dude from getting a hold of a weapon and killing people.

But maybe making it a little harder to purchase guns stops someone else. And for the law abiding citizen it's just an inconvenience and not so far that they can't obtain a firearm for safety, hunting or recreation. Hell I don't know but I'm really sick of seeing this shit too.
 

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I think some measure that makes it a leeeeetle harder to get a military grade weapon would be at least a start.
You always complain about people being ‘lazy” then throw this shit out there.

Name me one. ONE ‘military grade’ weapon that is available to the general public. Just one.

The fact is, you can’t, because there isn’t one. Just because the media and left constantly throw this scary term out there doesn’t make it true.
 

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You always complain about people being ‘lazy” then throw this shit out there.

Name me one. ONE ‘military grade’ weapon that is available to the general public. Just one.

The fact is, you can’t, because there isn’t one. Just because the media and left constantly throw this scary term out there doesn’t make it true.
Since the language is such a big deal with you, how about we just restrict it to semi-automatic handguns? But oh noess!!1! Not my hunting rifle and my AR-15 that I use for nothing other than probably posting some stupid video of me blowing up a water jug from 10 feet away!
 

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I mean their culture is slightly different than ours. What works in Japan wouldn't work in America. They have a stupid low crime rate there. You can make guns disappear and our culture isn't that.
The only reason it wouldn't work here is cause of our own attitude. Our culture is too selfish to think about the greater good of our country instead of doing what we individually want. Ya, it sucks so many kids die in schools every year but what about my freedoms?!? Gimme a break. Take your fucked up feelings out of the situation and look at the whole picture rationally. Gun lovers can't do it.
 

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Since the language is such a big deal with you, how about we just restrict it to semi-automatic handguns? But oh noess!!1! Not my hunting rifle and my AR-15 that I use for nothing other than probably posting some stupid video of me blowing up a water jug from 10 feet away!
It has nothing to do with the language. It has to do with actual TRUTH. Actual firing capabilities. Using those terms is nothing but a lie. A fear tactic to try and control the public’s mind.

And if you’re just going to post idiotic rhetoric and insults, there’s no point in continuing this with you.
 

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It has nothing to do with the language. It has to do with actual TRUTH. Actual firing capabilities. Using those terms is nothing but a lie. A fear tactic to try and control the public’s mind.

And if you’re just going to post idiotic rhetoric and insults, there’s no point in continuing this with you.
:lol ya, because "idiotic rhetoric and insults" haven't been a staple of this board since the beginning.

Fine, want to keep it civil, let's do it. Please tell me why you feel the need to have the ability to buy and own a weapon capable of these mass shootings should trump the overall safety of the community as a whole?
 

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An AR-15 is a weapon of war serves no other purpose than to kill multiple people in minimal time. If Nodak wants to hang his argument on "language" and can't acknowledge that, then he's right, there is no point in continuing the conversation.
 

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Holy shit, I was this close to making a WeApOnS oF wAr joke. And there it is.

Is Irv on that DNC Talking Points email list?
 

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But really, and I'm not a "gun guy," but I do know you can kill a lot of people with pistols.

So when Beto comes for all the AR-15s and some deranged kid shoots up a school with a couple of pistols, what then?

We know what then.

I still ask the question, why were there at least as many guns decades ago but not nearly the same shootings? Seems no one wants to answer that question, or even give it serious thought.
 

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But really, and I'm not a "gun guy," but I do know you can kill a lot of people with pistols.

So when Beto comes for all the AR-15s and some deranged kid shoots up a school with a couple of pistols, what then?

We know what then.

I still ask the question, why were there at least as many guns decades ago but not nearly the same shootings? Seems no one wants to answer that question, or even give it serious thought.
I have no desire to speculate on what did/didn't work decades ago. I know what doesn't work now.
 

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I don’t think that is viable, not in this country. I think some measure that makes it a leeeeetle harder to get an military grade weapon would be at least a start. The truly insane will find a way. But if it gets a weaker insane person to not go shoot up a mall, isn’t that a start?
None of these shootings are committed with military grade weapons.
 

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Our culture is too selfish to think about the greater good of our country instead of doing what we individually want.
I think that's a bit unfair to say. Just because you want rights and freedoms doesn't mean you're selfish. I don't own an AR but I don't want an outright ban. So how can that be defined as selfish? We give up some rights for personal safety. But we all draw the line somewhere. You have a right against unlawful search and seizure but maybe we are just being selfish. We would all be safer if you give up that right.

I think labeling it as just selfish incorrectly frames what's going on.
 

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Since the language is such a big deal with you, how about we just restrict it to semi-automatic handguns? But oh noess!!1! Not my hunting rifle and my AR-15 that I use for nothing other than probably posting some stupid video of me blowing up a water jug from 10 feet away!
There isn't a real tangible difference between a semi automatic handgun and an AR-15.

The barrel length. That's the difference.

Firing mechanism.... the same.

Firing speed... the same.

Bullet caliber... the same.

Insertable magazines.... both of them have them.
 

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But really, and I'm not a "gun guy," but I do know you can kill a lot of people with pistols.

So when Beto comes for all the AR-15s and some deranged kid shoots up a school with a couple of pistols, what then?

We know what then.

I still ask the question, why were there at least as many guns decades ago but not nearly the same shootings? Seems no one wants to answer that question, or even give it serious thought.
Columbine happened with handguns and a shotgun.

It's an anti-gun agenda not worth paying attention to.
 
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