Worker Suing McDonald's Franchise Over Payroll Debit Cards

Clay_Allison said:
If I owe someone fifty bucks and I give them fifty minus a five dollar fee, have I paid them what I owe or have I shortchanged them?
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Depends on whether you had an agreement indicating same.
 
Clay_Allison said:
If I owe someone fifty bucks and I give them fifty minus a five dollar fee, have I paid them what I owe or have I shortchanged them?
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The five bucks isn't a fee that is automatically taken out and doesn't have to be taken out at all. It's only if you get cash back at the register. If it's just a normal debit card purchase it doesn't cost them anything.
 
Iamtdg said:
The five bucks isn't a fee that is automatically taken out and doesn't have to be taken out at all. It's only if you get cash back at the register. If it's just a normal debit card purchase it doesn't cost them anything.
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But what if you just want cash. That's what I am missing. You'd still get hit with a fee, no?

Although they are becoming more and more rare, there are certainly places where debit cards aren't accepted.
 
junk said:
But what if you just want cash. That's what I am missing. You'd still get hit with a fee, no?

Although they are becoming more and more rare, there are certainly places where debit cards aren't accepted.
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Yes. There are times when all people need cash. Fucking them over by taking back part of what they earned is disingenuous at best. It probably is just fine to pay them through a debit card but when you start attaching all kinds of conditions to it in the forms of fees, it loses a little integrity.
 
NoDak said:
Just curious, but if they can't withdraw the money without incurring a charge, or pay their bills online without incurring a charge, how do you propose they pay their bills without being hit with some of these fees?
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Smart money says go to the bank and get your money.
 
Genghis Khan said:
I'm guessing you missed this part:


$5 for over-the-counter cash withdrawals
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I assumed that meant getting your money over the counter at supermarkets and things (cash back), not the bank.

If there is no way to get paid without fees then this is wrong. If they are just setting traps for their stupid and lazy employees they are just dicks, not wrong.
 
Genghis Khan said:
I am taking the bar in July, dumbass.

Who do you think is more likely talking out of his ass, you or me?
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After that comment? You. Lawyers most fvcking idiots, and basically all new lawyers are. I don't know what they teach in law school, but it sure as hell ain't what lawyers need to know. It seems to take them years in their field before they are competent.
 
jeebs said:
After that comment? You. Lawyers most fvcking idiots, and basically all new lawyers are. I don't know what they teach in law school, but it sure as hell ain't what lawyers need to know. It seems to take them years in their field before they are competent.
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While this is true, it's not because they don't know theory.

What they don't teach you is practice. But Geng can recite laws and cases till he's blue in the face, I'm sure.
 
mschmidt64 said:
While this is true, it's not because they don't know theory.

What they don't teach you is practice. But Geng can recite laws and cases till he's blue in the face, I'm sure.
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Which is all useless because if he was better he could cite precidents for the exact opposite as well. Now how it actually works, that is something else entirely.
 
jeebs said:
Which is all useless because if he was better he could cite precidents for the exact opposite as well.
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Not if there is no precedent. Law isn't what you see on TV. Sometimes it's not about being brilliant and coming up with some angle no one has thought of. If there are lawyers out there like that, they are in the top 0.00001%.
 
My criminal justice professor tried to sell me on going to law school but I just couldn't see myself going into that much debt.
 
Clay_Allison said:
My criminal justice professor tried to sell me on going to law school but I just couldn't see myself going into that much debt.
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It's hard to say that it's worth it unless you are gonna graduate making 100k a year.
 
mschmidt64 said:
It's hard to say that it's worth it unless you are gonna graduate making 100k a year.
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I'd have been lucky to make 38k in this state, and that's if I got on with a prosecutor's office. As a public defender I could maybe make 27k, less than I make as a correctional officer.
 
Clay_Allison said:
I'd have been lucky to make 38k in this state, and that's if I got on with a prosecutor's office. As a public defender I could maybe make 27k, less than I make as a correctional officer.
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Yeah. And with 100k in debt you are looking at a payment of what, $900 a month for 25 years? At 38k your total income is only like $2000 a month after taxes. That's half your income to loans.
 
mschmidt64 said:
Yeah. And with 100k in debt you are looking at a payment of what, $900 a month for 25 years? At 38k your total income is only like $2000 a month after taxes. That's half your income to loans.
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If you're from a filthy rich family that can set you up with a practice doing real estate or whatever it makes sense to be a lawyer, or if you're a minority that can get free tuition. For a white guy from a blue collar family, nope.
 
mschmidt64 said:
Yeah. And with 100k in debt you are looking at a payment of what, $900 a month for 25 years? At 38k your total income is only like $2000 a month after taxes. That's half your income to loans.
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Damn. Makes me glad I never bothered to go to law school like I once thought about.
 
I'd pay the load back with pre-paid debit cards that have unreasonable fees.
 
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