Machota - Jones: Cowboys making decisions based on Romo being QB for next 5 years

[Cotton]

This is a stupid game plan. The last couple of seasons, I've cringed just about any time a defender has gotten within arm's length of Romo and I find it hard to believe that they think he's got 5 years left when we would be lucky to get two out of him.

I agree with Iamtdg, this hearkens back to the way the QB position was handled when it was clear that Troy was on the downside of his career and wouldn't be able to take the pounding much more. Romo's even a little bit older than Troy was when he went down for the last time.

It's almost identical. Remember the 7 year contract given to Troy late in his career? Yeah, me too.

 

[p1_]

Again, foolish Jerry re-emerges..

 

[dallen]

3-5 makes sense to me. Maybe 2-5 instead, but Romo certainly doesn't seem to be dropping off. Does anyone really not expect him to be playing for 3 more seasons with the possibility of 1 or 2 more depending on health?

 

[ravidubey]

This is a stupid game plan. The last couple of seasons, I've cringed just about any time a defender has gotten within arm's length of Romo and I find it hard to believe that they think he's got 5 years left when we would be lucky to get two out of him.

I agree with Iamtdg, this hearkens back to the way the QB position was handled when it was clear that Troy was on the downside of his career and wouldn't be able to take the pounding much more. Romo's even a little bit older than Troy was when he went down for the last time.

Except unlike Aikman, Romo is playing at a very high level. I never saw Romo ending a season in Prime Time by taking a retard-sprint out of bounds on 4th down. An interception, sure, but not that.

Troy played at an outrageously high level for a very short time, but then he was done and hung on way too long.

Huh?

Yes, two years is too far ahead to draft Romo's successor.

What's the plan, draft a QB in the 1st or 2nd when Romo will guaranteed outplay him for 2-3 seasons, then start that guy as a relative noob with 2 seasons left on his rookie contract? Good luck with that.

Or draft a QB in the 4th or later who is guaranteed to be next to ineffective as a pro (data proves this out).

The title of this article is a rim job meant to drive out the Jerry haters. When it comes to team planning, three to five doesn't mean five, it means three.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Jerry had no plan in how to replace Aikman, before stumbling upon Romo. So it's no surprise he's going to try and ride the Romo train as long as possible because he still has no plan in how to acquire a quality QB. The only time we actually looked for a starting QB when we had the #1 overall pick in '89 the first draft Jimmy and Jerry ever had.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Jerry had no plan in how to replace Aikman, before stumbling upon Romo. So it's no surprise he's going to try and ride the Romo train as long as possible because he still has no plan in how to acquire a quality QB. The only time we actually looked for a starting QB when we had the #1 overall pick in '89 the first draft Jimmy and Jerry ever had.

Aikman was earmarked by Schram before Jones bought the team. They went with the predetermined choice but Johnson wasn't confident in tbe choice and brought in Walsh.

 

[asklesko]

they need to groom a qb right now. with romo's back the way it is, there's no time to waste.

 

[Clay_Allison]

they need to groom a qb right now. with romo's back the way it is, there's no time to waste.

No thanks. Replacing Romo with at best the next Andy Dalton isn't going to solve anything. It'll just keep us too mediocre to get a good QB.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Aikman was earmarked by Schram before Jones bought the team. They went with the predetermined choice but Johnson wasn't confident in tbe choice and brought in Walsh.

I know. Jimmy hedged his bet and then ended up getting a 1st and 3rd for Walsh a year later.

Point of the post however, was about Jerry not having a plan to replace Aikman and now to replace Romo, not about how Aikman was acquired.

 

[Clay_Allison]

I know. Jimmy hedged his bet and then ended up getting a 1st and 3rd for Walsh a year later.

Point of the post however, was about Jerry not having a plan to replace Aikman and now to replace Romo, not about how Aikman was acquired.

He did have a plan, it's just his evaluation of Quinthy was horrible and the team was hamstrung by the Galloway trade.

 

[ravidubey]

they need to groom a qb right now. with romo's back the way it is, there's no time to waste.

It's not practical or maybe even possible to groom a QB anymore because:

- 95% of quality starting QBs are 1st/2nd rounders
- High picks play ASAP because rookie contracts are short.

So you only draft Romo's replacement when you are prepared to commit to him almost like a starter with every rep possible. That means Romo has to be almost done and gone first.

Draft a QB now, and be prepared to bench Romo by midseason at the latest. Oh yeah, and kiss the playoffs goodbye short of a miracle changeover in defensive personnel.

 

[Clay_Allison]

It's not practical or maybe even possible to groom a QB anymore because:

- 95% of quality starting QBs are 1st/2nd rounders
- High picks play ASAP because rookie contracts are short.

So you only draft Romo's replacement when you are prepared to commit to him almost like a starter with every rep possible. That means Romo has to be almost done and gone first.

Draft a QB now, and be prepared to bench Romo by midseason at the latest. Oh yeah, and kiss the playoffs goodbye short of a miracle changeover in defensive personnel.

I think you are exaggerating slightly. If you draft a QB in the late first a couple of years from now you can plan on one redshirt year because first rounders get that 5th year on their deals. By the time a guy has played 4 years you'll know whether he's a franchise guy or not.

 

[ravidubey]

I think you are exaggerating slightly. If you draft a QB in the late first a couple of years from now you can plan on one redshirt year because first rounders get that 5th year on their deals. By the time a guy has played 4 years you'll know whether he's a franchise guy or not.

You could do that, but teams want their 1st round picks playing right away. The case where a Rodgers waits patiently on the bench for a Favre to retire doesn't happen anymore.

Redshirts don't get enough time or reps to develop. QB is not like a DL where you can still get plenty of reps even with 6 to 9 other guys rotating in.

The numbers speak for themselves, draft a guy after the 3rd round and he's gone in 4 having provided little to no help to your team. Draft a guy in the top 3 rounds and he's starting before his rookie season ends.

 

[Cotton]

I got an idea.

How about we argue about when you should draft a QB and how long they can sit on the bench?

Again.

For the 45 millionth time.

 

[Clay_Allison]

You could do that, but teams want their 1st round picks playing right away. The case where a Rodgers waits patiently on the bench for a Favre to retire doesn't happen anymore.

Redshirts don't get enough time or reps to develop. QB is not like a DL where you can still get plenty of reps even with 6 to 9 other guys rotating in.

The numbers speak for themselves, draft a guy after the 3rd round and he's gone in 4 having provided little to no help to your team. Draft a guy in the top 3 rounds and he's starting before his rookie season ends.

I think rookies get enough good out of sitting the bench, learning the environment and the playbook and learning to prepare for games like a backup. They can also adjust to the speed of the game by running the scout team. Maybe ideally you want to get every last ounce out of a pick but if the situation is one year away from ideal, you can live with it.

Honestly, if the scouts tell you they think a guy has elite tools but he's not ready and needs a year to develop he's undraftable? Ludicrous.

 

[ravidubey]

Honestly, if the scouts tell you they think a guy has elite tools but he's not ready and needs a year to develop he's undraftable? Ludicrous.

Of course not ludicrous, but less practical than getting a backup somewhere else or maybe even a starting RB.

I actually think many players with the tools to be elite NFL QBs like you mention have washed out of the league simply because no one could devote enough time to develop them.

The dedicated coaching Romo got for years on the bench while douchebags like Drew Henson got starting opportunities was a minor miracle.

99% of the time Romo gets cut and never gets another chance.

 

[Clay_Allison]

Of course not ludicrous, but less practical than getting a backup somewhere else or maybe even a starting RB.

I actually think many players with the tools to be elite NFL QBs like you mention have washed out of the league simply because no one could devote enough time to develop them.

The dedicated coaching Romo got for years on the bench while douchebags like Drew Henson got starting opportunities was a minor miracle.

99% of the time Romo gets cut and never gets another chance.

If you think you're going to move on from your starting QB in 1-2 years, you have time to dedicate snaps to them in 1-2 years. If that means that if he's good you only get 2-3 cheap productive years from him and then have to pay, so what?

 

[Rev]

I got an idea.

How about we argue about when you should draft a QB and how long they can sit on the bench?

Again.

For the 45 millionth time.

Looks like you gave them the green light.