NFL Updates Domestic Violence Policy

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Per ESPN Breaking News.....

First offense for domestic violence 6-game suspension.

Second offense will get you a lifetime ban.
 
1bigfan13 said:
Per ESPN Breaking News.....

First offense for domestic violence 6-game suspension.

Second offense will get you a lifetime ban.
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Shutting the barn door after the horse is already gone.

They should have had policy on something like this set decades ago. Better late than never, I guess.
 
It's going to be hard to make it stick. They'll need a conviction to come down that hard, not just an arrest and the players will lawyer up and fight the charges a lot harder facing that kind of hit.
 
Life time ban. That will not stick. League just asking for trouble.
 
NoDak said:
Shutting the barn door after the horse is already gone.

They should have had policy on something like this set decades ago. Better late than never, I guess.
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Really? I guess I don't have much problem with the lifetime ban for two, but shit happens with one. Do you have to be accused, charged, or convicted before the penalty kicks in? 6 games is a lot. Would you want the same policy at your work? Get charges dropped and miss 5 months wages...
 
NoDak said:
Shutting the barn door after the horse is already gone.

They should have had policy on something like this set decades ago. Better late than never, I guess.
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It always takes some kind of terrible shit to happen before something is changed.

Fuck, it took Dale Earnhardt dying before serious safety reform in NASCAR.

Anyhow, Goodell got this right. Don't beat your wife or kids. It is bullshit.
 
jeebs said:
Really? I guess I don't have much problem with the lifetime ban for two, but shit happens with one. Do you have to be accused, charged, or convicted before the penalty kicks in? 6 games is a lot. Would you want the same policy at your work? Get charges dropped and miss 5 months wages...
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I really doubt the players will be subject to the penalty if they are accused and it's found out to be not true. I'd suspect there will have to be some sort of proof of guilt.

If I had a personal conduct policy at my job, I'd comply with it or suffer it's penalties. And where did come up with losing 5 months wages? Especially after charges were dropped. Just some imaginary number you concocted? You do realize that 6 games would be 1 1/2 months, right?

And I have no problem with the penalties set going forward. I have zero tolerance for spousal abuse.
 
NoDak said:
I really doubt the players will be subject to the penalty if they are accused and it's found out to be not true. I'd suspect there will have to be some sort of proof of guilt.

If I had a personal conduct policy at my job, I'd comply with it or suffer it's penalties. And where did come up with losing 5 months wages? Especially after charges were dropped. Just some imaginary number you concocted? You do realize that 6 games would be 1 1/2 months, right?

And I have no problem with the penalties set going forward. I have zero tolerance for spousal abuse.
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i said 5 months wages are because that was as close as I could easily get to losing 6/16ths of a years wages. Just because he only misses 1.5 months, he still loses 6/16ths of a years wages. Or about five months for those of us not paid solely 16 consecutive weeks a year.

And as for charging them even if the charges were dropped, were t the charges dropped on the guy this year who was suspended for 2 games?

I guess I can understand and support it, but I have a problem when they are punishing people for accusations that are not proved true in court. Nfl players face enough conniving bitches.
 
A lady got charged for child abuse for dropping her 10 year old off at the park.

If you spank a kid and the PTA doesn't like it, should you miss 6 games? Do it twice and it is a pattern, I see no reason for benifet of the doubt, lifetime ban.
 
Just because legal charges were dropped because somebody decided not to press charges, doesn't mean it didn't happen. And I think there was more than enough proof that it DID happen in Rice's case.

As I already said. Zero tolerance. He got off way too easy.
 
jeebs said:
If you spank a kid and the PTA doesn't like it, should you miss 6 games? Do it twice and it is a pattern, I see no reason for benifet of the doubt, lifetime ban.
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Now you're just getting stupid. I'm out.
 
NoDak said:
Now you're just getting stupid. I'm out.
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What, I am serious. I don't like zero tolerance policies for that reason. Plenty if stupid child abuse charges have been filed, I am not automatically going to say of any charge is filled he automatically needs to lose 5 months work (or the football equivalent). Now if you are repeatedly charged with that shit, and I am your employer, I don't care if you did it or not that shit looks bad and you can go somewhere else.
 
jeebs said:
What, I am serious. I don't like zero tolerance policies for that reason. Plenty if stupid child abuse charges have been filed, I am not automatically going to say of any charge is filled he automatically needs to lose 5 months work (or the football equivalent). Now if you are repeatedly charged with that shit, and I am your employer, I don't care if you did it or not that shit looks bad and you can go somewhere else.
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I agree.
 
jeebs said:
What, I am serious. I don't like zero tolerance policies for that reason. Plenty if stupid child abuse charges have been filed, I am not automatically going to say of any charge is filled he automatically needs to lose 5 months work (or the football equivalent). Now if you are repeatedly charged with that shit, and I am your employer, I don't care if you did it or not that shit looks bad and you can go somewhere else.
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And I already said I doubt that would happen in the very first line of my first reply to you. Just because I said I have zero tolerance for spousal abuse, doesn't mean I believe every person who is accused is automatically led to the gallows before due process.
 
NoDak said:
And I already said I doubt that would happen in the very first line of my first reply to you. Just because I said I have zero tolerance for spousal abuse, doesn't mean I believe every person who is accused is automatically led to the gallows before due process.
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And I already said, they already punished a guy for abuse after the district attorney decided it wasnt worth pursuing. Just because a spouse doesn't want charges, it is not up to her rather the district attorney.
 
NoDak said:
I really doubt the players will be subject to the penalty if they are accused and it's found out to be not true. I'd suspect there will have to be some sort of proof of guilt.

If I had a personal conduct policy at my job, I'd comply with it or suffer it's penalties. And where did come up with losing 5 months wages? Especially after charges were dropped. Just some imaginary number you concocted? You do realize that 6 games would be 1 1/2 months, right?

And I have no problem with the penalties set going forward. I have zero tolerance for spousal abuse.
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As if Oil Field Trash have conduct policies. You could kill your wife and kids and have a job as soon as you got out of jail. If Chris Benoit was in the Oil Field the tool pusher would have only been pissed he didn't make it to work.
 
jeebs said:
And I already said, they already punished a guy for abuse after the district attorney decided it wasnt worth pursuing. Just because a spouse doesn't want charges, it is not up to her rather the district attorney.
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But what the issue is does an employer have a right to sanction an employee even though the judicial system chose not to pursue the matter? It is no different than any other act or violation that is against a employers policies. You either think an employer has rights to uphold policies or you believe they don't.
 
Clay_Allison said:
As if Oil Field Trash have conduct policies. You could kill your wife and kids and have a job as soon as you got out of jail. If Chris Benoit was in the Oil Field the tool pusher would have only been pissed he didn't make it to work.
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You know about as much with how the oilfield works as you do about anything else.

Which isn't much.
 
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