LOL @ the Redskins

[L.T. Fan]

So just because something is accepted for a long time means that it should always be accepted? Even if, as I'm sure you would admit, it would absolutely not be accepted for an expansion franchise to use a racial term like Redskins if they were to start up today? Like it or not, the views of society as a whole are going to change over time. I don't think it's a case of, as you so snidely put it, 'those who perceive they have suddenly become enlightened'. This has been a discussion point that has been building for years, it has just started to gain real traction in the media over the past few.

I will admit society has changed. Mascot names are now offensive and pot is not only accepted but becoming more and more legal. What a country. I guess I am just out of step about what is offensive.

 

[Carp]

I will admit society has changed. Mascot names are now offensive and pot is not only accepted but becoming more and more legal. What a country. I guess I am just out of step about what is offensive.

Pot has nothing to do with anything that is being discussed. I mean damn dude, illustrate points by confusion I guess.

 

[data]

Saw this political cartoon...I'm surprised the DCC hasn't ever had a Confederate flag dust-up

 

[E_D_Guapo]

I will admit society has changed. Mascot names are now offensive and pot is not only accepted but becoming more and more legal. What a country. I guess I am just out of step about what is offensive.

I can assure you that I am equally incredulous about the prevalence of certain things in our society in this day and age, but I'll leave it at that.

If you think it's a "leave well enough alone" situation then fair enough. That's your opinion. I'm assuming you must see "redskin" as more in line with "colored folks" and "the Orientals" than with "niggers" or "chinks". The latter have always had negative connotations while the former were at one time considered almost polite, and certainly acceptable, terms. They no longer are, of course, but at one time they were.

 

[Cotton]

Saw this political cartoon...I'm surprised the DCC hasn't ever had a Confederate flag dust-up

We had a huge Confederate Flag dustup. I'm amazed as our historian you don't remember.

 

[Cotton]

I can assure you that I am equally incredulous about the prevalence of certain things in our society in this day and age, but I'll leave it at that.

If you think it's a "leave well enough alone" situation then fair enough. That's your opinion. I'm assuming you must see "redskin" as more in line with "colored folks" and "the Orientals" than with "niggers" or "chinks". The latter have always had negative connotations while the former were at one time considered almost polite, and certainly acceptable, terms. They no longer are, of course, but at one time they were.

Problem is, more and more terms that used to be just a word are offensive now. Not because they should be offensive, but because enough weight behind the word happened to cause them to be offensive. It's stupid, and yet one more indication of our victimized society. Oriental is the perfect example of that point. Midget is another.

 

[Carp]

I'm not going to tell Native Americans how they should feel about a name though. You shouldn't either.

 

[Cotton]

I'm not going to tell Native Americans how they should feel about a name though. You shouldn't either.

Do you think that Ace should be offended by being called a little person?

Not that you were referring to my post, but if your inference was that everyone alive should have their own entitlement to be offended regardless of the word, I disagree.

 

[Cotton]

Words are words. Good lord.

 

[Carp]

Do you think that Ace should be offended by being called a little person?

We are comparing Ace...a guy getting ribbed on a message board...to a team name in the NFL that offends a race/group of people. Great comparison.

If he was offended, I would stop.

 

[Carp]

Words are words. Good lord.

Some words mean more than others...surely you can recognize that. Would you call a black guy a nigger? I mean it is just a words, right?

 

[Cotton]

We are comparing Ace...a guy getting ribbed on a message board...to a team name in the NFL that offends a race/group of people. Great comparison.

If he was offended, I would stop.

I should have qualified my statement with the fact that my post before was talking about the words oriental and midget. I wasn't necessarily referring to the word redskin.

 

[Cotton]

Some words mean more than others...surely you can recognize that. Would you call a black guy a nigger? I mean it is just a wors, right?

Honestly? Yeah, it's just a word. People give it power.

 

[Carp]

I should have qualified my statement with the fact that my post before was talking about the words oriental and midget. I wasn't necessarily referring to the word redskin.

My bad...I thought you might be staying on topic.

 

[Carp]

Honestly? Yeah, it's just a word. People give it power.

Damn dude...ok.

 

[E_D_Guapo]

Problem is, more and more terms that used to be just a word are offensive now. Not because they should be offensive, but because enough weight behind the word happened to cause them to be offensive. It's stupid, and yet one more indication of our victimized society. Oriental is the perfect example of that point. Midget is another.

It's up to each individual where they want to draw that line and whether they want to conform to the perceived social niceties or not. That's everyone's personal choice.

I think it's a different ballgame when you're talking about a corporation whose entire brand and image are based upon something that is increasingly being looked at as archaic and distasteful. That team represents a professional league as well as a city (that happens to be the nation's capital). If more and more people start lining up to say, "That's offensive" it just seems silly at a point when the other side keeps saying "Is not!". Maybe you don't think it's right that they should be pressured but I don't see anything wrong with people speaking their mind in opposition.

 

[data]

Honestly? Yeah, it's just a word. People give it power.

How do you feel about burning the American flag -- It is just a flag or does it represent something more?

Some people consider it sacrilege to distort the American flag on sports uniforms.

 

[data]

Honestly? Yeah, it's just a word. People give it power.

I prefer not to be addressed 'a word' that was used to address my ancestors when they were being enslaved, beaten for entertainment, spit on and raped.

 

[Clay_Allison]

Saw this political cartoon...I'm surprised the DCC hasn't ever had a Confederate flag dust-up

The caption makes no sense. The Swastika was an Asian thing that Hitler happened to like. It's nothing to do with German heritage or anything. What it may have in common with the confederate flag is being a symbol of resentment over the outcome of a war.

 

[L.T. Fan]

Pot has nothing to do with anything that is being discussed. I mean damn dude, illustrate points by confusion I guess.

It's an example of what value systems have evolved. A mascot is shameful but pot is almost condoned. The point is value systems that get people worked up and what offends. I am extremely offended by the latter and will say so. I am not trying to divert the discussion rather defending those of us who are not offended by a mascot name that has been around for a long time. It has never been viewed as something slanderous. It has simply been viewed as a mascot name. It was stated that societies have changed and I certainly am in agreement.