2026 Draft Week Chatter Thread...

What's the downside on Jordyn Brooks again? Seems like he had a good year statistically. Wasn't he named first team All Pro this year? Why is he available so cheaply, potentially?
 
Chocolate Lab said:
Because a lot of good players are gone in those 19 picks. Like we're saying, the generic ratings might be similar but you miss choosing your best fit for need, scheme fit, etc.

Now if Reese or Bailey were at 6, okay, but they weren't...
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No, I"m saying, we had that logic before the draft in the sense that there wasn't a huge talent different between 20 and 39.

I'm using it as evidence that Lawrence ranked at 35 on many expert boards is, this year at least, basically the same as whoever they had ranked at 23-25.
 
Smitty said:
What's the downside on Jordyn Brooks again? Seems like he had a good year statistically. Wasn't he named first team All Pro this year? Why is he available so cheaply, potentially?
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Not sure if he really is available at all. But the Dolphins are in a bit of a fire sale and he is in the last year of his contract. Trade him now and get something or don't and get nothing next offseason.
 
Smitty said:
What's the downside on Jordyn Brooks again? Seems like he had a good year statistically. Wasn't he named first team All Pro this year? Why is he available so cheaply, potentially?
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He's aging and in the final year of his contract. Since the Dolphins are rebuilding I guess they'd rather have whatever draft capital they can get rather than resign an aging vet who might be into his 30s before they're competing.
 
I mean, some industry person tweeted "The Cowboys will have a green dot LB by Monday," so at least someone has some confidence that they are going to get a starter somewhere here. Not sure how you could have confidence it will come in the draft at this point since you aren't picking till 92, guys like Rodriguez and Hill will be long gone.

So there may be a trade lined up.
 
Smitty said:
No, I"m saying, we had that logic before the draft in the sense that there wasn't a huge talent different between 20 and 39.

I'm using it as evidence that Lawrence ranked at 35 on many expert boards is, this year at least, basically the same as whoever they had ranked at 23-25.
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I mean that's the difficult thing. You have TJ Parker and Zion Young maybe as the next two pass rushers. But neither guy to me has elite pass rushing traits. Neither guy to me is an ideal fit as a 3-4 OLBer. I know Faulk was technically the next EDGE off the board but he isn't really an edge in my opinion. More of a two gapping 3-4 D-lineman.

Anyway, I'll take Lawrence over Parker and Zion Young every day for example. Howell on the other hand I really liked for our defense. But with the short arms he ranked behind Lawrence for many. Anyway, Lawrence has been a guy I've been talking about for months now. I love the player.
 
Smitty said:
What's the downside on Jordyn Brooks again? Seems like he had a good year statistically. Wasn't he named first team All Pro this year? Why is he available so cheaply, potentially?
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Genghis Khan said:
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I'm not opposed to trading up but I also love the idea of getting 4 players from pick 92 through the fourth round. Like that's a lot of young talent you could add via this draft. You could go get a really solid 3-4 DE, you could get 2 LBers and you could get a WR. All between those 4 picks. That's a lot of capital to go, yeah but I just want one second round LBer.
 
There are plenty of LBs that will be there at 92. Trotter and Perkins will be there and we like them both. Rolder, Lawson, and Elams-Orr will be there too.
 
Cowboysrock55 said:
I'm not opposed to trading up but I also love the idea of getting 4 players from pick 92 through the fourth round. Like that's a lot of young talent you could add via this draft. You could go get a really solid 3-4 DE, you could get 2 LBers and you could get a WR. All between those 4 picks. That's a lot of capital to go, yeah but I just want one second round LBer.
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We need like a Barber/Canty fourth round where we land two big hits at least, if not three.
 
Smitty said:
I mean, some industry person tweeted "The Cowboys will have a green dot LB by Monday," so at least someone has some confidence that they are going to get a starter somewhere here. Not sure how you could have confidence it will come in the draft at this point since you aren't picking till 92, guys like Rodriguez and Hill will be long gone.

So there may be a trade lined up.
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Or we just sign Okereke or Wagner...
 
Smitty said:
I agree, they evaluate these guys based on very generic scheme fit, I think Lawrence is a much better projection if you are looking for a 3-4 OLB than the concerns you might have (size and holding up against the run) if you are playing 4-3.

They should really tier out the lists, too.

And even within tiers you can have higher and lower guys.

But the bigger a tier gets (and that will correspond with the later in the draft you get), the more the rankings are mostly liquid.

Still, usually there is a sizeable gap between a player you can get at 20 or 23 and a player more like 35 on consensus rankings.

This year, I'm not sure that's the case and many of us said so in advance, that the player you get at 20 is very similar to the player you get at 39, so why not trade 12 and 20 for 6 and 39?
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If you provide too much nuance they'll lose the casual fan, so that's why you get easily digestable top 50/100 lists, and then oversimplified reactions during/after the draft based on that.

But at the end of the day Lawrence is an explosive piece off the edge and that's what's important. 23 may have been a slight reach but not by anymore than maybe 10ish picks, and in this class that's basically nothing.
 
Smitty said:
We need like a Barber/Canty fourth round where we land two big hits at least, if not three.
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RB isn't a terrible idea either. You could fill both and have third and fourth to still play around with.

I've said it before the fourth round has always been one of my favorite rounds. It always feels like that's the round where you go back the night before and see all these names you can't believe are still available. It would be really fun to have 3 picks and actually make them.
 
Smitty said:
What's the downside on Jordyn Brooks again? Seems like he had a good year statistically. Wasn't he named first team All Pro this year? Why is he available so cheaply, potentially?
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Age (almost 30) and he's probably looking for a new contract.

But the real reason is because Miami isn't going to be good for at least 3 years and by then he'll be 32.
 
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