Week 11 Gameday Chatter Thread | Cowboys vs Dolphins | 11/22/2015

Chocolate Lab

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It happens a lot near the sideline when a player gets knocked backwards out of bounds, but in that case it's forward progress. In this case the player did it entirely on his own with nobody near him. It's no different from a receiver catching a pass over the middle and running backwards of his own volition... They properly don't call forward progress in that case.
 

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People online are freaking out over how the refs screwed the Bills, but as far back as I can remember the refs will keep the clock running if you go out of bounds without attempting to advance the ball.
Not true. If a receiver for example runs backwards he doesn't get the benefit of forward progress. It's the same concept except at the sideline.

Now if his forward progress is stopped by a defender prior to going out of bounds that is a different story.
 

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NFL admits Sammy Watkins got out of bounds with two seconds left

Posted by Michael David Smith on November 25, 2015, 10:50 AM EST

The NFL has admitted that Bills receiver Sammy Watkins got out of bounds with two seconds remaining on Monday night, meaning the Bills should have had time to run one last play in their 20-13 loss to the Patriots.

NFL V.P. of officiating Dean Blandino said on NFL Network on Tuesday night that Watkins rolled out of bounds without being touched, which means the clock should have stopped. The official closest to the play erroneously thought Watkins was giving himself up in the field of play and signaled for the clock to keep running.

“He is down in bounds, but he’s not contacted,” Blandino said as he showed video of the play. “He’s attempting to get out of bounds, you want to give that player the opportunity to get out of bounds, and really, that’s what should have happened.”

For the official right on top of that play to screw it up is a serious mistake. It also doesn’t help matters that the NFL waited until Tuesday night to acknowledge the error. That led to a day of confusion in which many fans, wrongly interpreting the rule, posted on social media that the clock kept running because Watkins wasn’t moving forward when he went out of bounds.

It’s good that the NFL is transparent enough to acknowledge such mistakes, but the league would do better to acknowledge those mistakes more quickly. Even better, of course, would be not to make mistakes in the first place.
 

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NFL admits Sammy Watkins got out of bounds with two seconds left

Posted by Michael David Smith on November 25, 2015, 10:50 AM EST

The NFL has admitted that Bills receiver Sammy Watkins got out of bounds with two seconds remaining on Monday night, meaning the Bills should have had time to run one last play in their 20-13 loss to the Patriots.

NFL V.P. of officiating Dean Blandino said on NFL Network on Tuesday night that Watkins rolled out of bounds without being touched, which means the clock should have stopped. The official closest to the play erroneously thought Watkins was giving himself up in the field of play and signaled for the clock to keep running.

“He is down in bounds, but he’s not contacted,” Blandino said as he showed video of the play. “He’s attempting to get out of bounds, you want to give that player the opportunity to get out of bounds, and really, that’s what should have happened.”

For the official right on top of that play to screw it up is a serious mistake. It also doesn’t help matters that the NFL waited until Tuesday night to acknowledge the error. That led to a day of confusion in which many fans, wrongly interpreting the rule, posted on social media that the clock kept running because Watkins wasn’t moving forward when he went out of bounds.

It’s good that the NFL is transparent enough to acknowledge such mistakes, but the league would do better to acknowledge those mistakes more quickly. Even better, of course, would be not to make mistakes in the first place.
I guess I learned something because it seemed like the right call to me
 

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Players go out of bounds all the time to stop the clock.

How a ref could fuck that up is beyond me.
 

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Me too, but I guess that is only if you get hit by a defender first. :shrug
Yeah, which only makes sense. When a defender hits you your progress is stopped. So you're down with the forward progress prior to going out of bounds. On the other hand if you just run backwards it's like any other play where you run backwards. The play is still live and you get no benefit of your forward progress.

I honestly thought everyone understood this. It's kind of surprising to me the number of people who didn't know it.
 
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