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http://www.dallascowboys.com/multimedia/videos/Training-Camp-LIVE-Tempers-Flare-In-1v1s/9db85ed6-3197-45be-a61f-6825c1a41098
Initial engagement between Claiborne and Williams about the 3 min mark. More crap around the 5 min mark, and Williams schools Claiborne about the 6 min mark.
Initial engagement between Claiborne and Williams about the 3 min mark. More crap around the 5 min mark, and Williams schools Claiborne about the 6 min mark.
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Based on his previous soccer photos, I'm guessing it means he's fat.
As an aside, you will all regret leaving the MO ZONE!!1! very soon.
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We can't have players practicing like they're playing. That could lead to an instinct to react.
Sorry Tyron, you'll need to tone down your leadership, mkay?
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George Halas said "don't ever do anything in practice you wouldn't do in a game". Leaving a fumble on the ground is one of those things.
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Sat. Practice Recap: Claiborne, Williams Square Off In Pads
Posted 9 hours ago
David Helman
DallasCowboys.com Staff Writer
OXNARD, Calif. – The common logic was that practice would get more intense when the Cowboys put their pads on Saturday afternoon, and it took a grand total of 45 minutes for that to prove true.
After a sleepy two days of walkthroughs to open 2014 training camp, the Cowboys exploded into a riveting afternoon practice on Day 3, highlighted by an intense few exchanges between Morris Claiborne and Terrance Williams.
There has been no shortage of debate about Claiborne in recent months – namely, that 2014 is a crucial year for him to prove his value as the No. 6 overall pick in the 2012 draft. The young corner opened practice like he was well-aware of that fact, as he harassed Williams in some stingy man coverage during one-on-one reps.
“It just got a little bit competitive – he didn’t like the way I was touching him,” Claiborne said. “I don’t know what else I was supposed to do except let him run his route. It gets like that sometimes out here, but we’re still teammates, we’re still buddies.”
The sequence continued to escalate, as the pair continued to have words for each other after each rep. Claiborne even went as far as to demand another receiver go against him, calling for Dez Bryant to come across the field from the other side of the drill.
“I was caught up in the moment,” Claiborne said. “Me and Dez are usually going against each other, each and every snap, and he was working on the other side today – which I understand.”
For a moment, it looked like the first scuffle of training camp would come within the very first hour, as Williams made his unhappiness with Claiborne’s aggression known – from very close proximity. For his part, Williams agreed it was left on the practice field.
“Yeah. That’s still my friend. Football is football,” he said. “Whatever happens out here stays out here. He’s still my good friend. Nothing is going to change. I’m done with that.”
It made for some gripping, intense football – not to mention competitive, which is something Jason Witten said can only help a roster with so much youth.
“Any time you put pads on for the first time, you’re going to get tempers flaring and competitiveness coming out,” Witten said. “That’s good for your football team, especially ours. We need that. Coach Garrett said it Day 1, all positions are open. Let the best man win.
Quick Hits:
•Plenty of eyes were on Rolando McClain in his first full practice with the Cowboys. The plan was to ease him into the practice, and that appeared to be the case as he acclimated to the pace of practice. McClain went through the full array of position workouts, and he partook in the full-team portions of practice as a second-team linebacker.
•Not to pile more hype on the already-hyped offensive line, but the Cowboys’ starting five blockers shined during one-one-one pass rush drills. Neither DeMarcus Lawrence nor Jeremy Mincey could gain ground on Tyron Smith, and Doug Free was impressive against the likes of George Selvie and Caesar Rayford. Travis Frederick stonewalled every lineman who went against him, and the guards shined, as well. Henry Melton beat Zack Martin on the first rep of the drill, but Martin rebounded nicely to hold his own against everyone else. Mackenzy Bernadeau was also solid to give the starting line a solid grade.
•Tony Romo went through Saturday’s practice in full after sitting out on Friday. He went through his usual routine in individuals – however, he didn’t throw any passes during the Cowboys’ first team period. He returned to uncork some balls later in the practice, heaving one deep downfield to Bryant.
•Rookie defensive end Ben Gardner became the first injury issue of training camp when he left the field with a shoulder injury about halfway through practice. Claiborne also exited drills toward the tail end of the day, but he said it was simply cramping and felt fine.
View Gallery | 33 Photos
Notable Standouts:
•Davon Coleman – The undrafted rookie defensive tackle couldn’t be blocked when the team went to one-on-one individual drills. He gave the opposing backup interior linemen absolute fits with his quickness, and they could barely get their hands on him before he was upfield.
•Chris Boyd – Boyd made the first big play of camp, as minicamp standout corner Tyler Patmon was in good coverage on him down the left sideline but couldn’t break up the pass on a streak. Boyd extended and made the play. Unfortunately, later on Boyd was wide open on a double move that left his man in the dust, but he couldn’t hang on to the pass.
•Tyron Smith – There might not be a player who’s made as drastic an improvement from this point last year until now as Smith. DeMarcus Ware would give Smith fits at camp last year, and now there’s no one who can even try to get by the left tackle, who was perfect during individual drills.
Play of the Day:
Jermey Parnell had the dubious distinction of being victimized – worse than anyone else – during individual pass rush drills. The No. 3 tackle lined up opposite Tyrone Crawford, and nothing was the same after that. Crawford bull rushed Parnell from the outside and steamrolled him, knocking the big guy onto his back to the delight of the crowd.
Injury Report:
Left Practice:
DE Ben Gardner (shoulder)
Returned to Practice:
LB Rolando McClain
Missed Practice:
DE Anthony Spencer (knee)
OG Ronald Leary (hamstring)
DT Amobi Okoye (illness)
CB Brandon Carr (personal matter)
Upcoming Schedule
Sunday, July 27
2:00 p.m. (PDT) Coach Garrett press conference
3:45 p.m. (PDT) Practice
Monday, July 28
Players Day Off No Availability
Tuesday, July 29
10:30 a.m. (PDT) Walk-Thru
12:00 p.m. (PDT) Coach Garrett Press Conference
3:45 p.m. (PDT) Practice
Posted 9 hours ago
David Helman
DallasCowboys.com Staff Writer
OXNARD, Calif. – The common logic was that practice would get more intense when the Cowboys put their pads on Saturday afternoon, and it took a grand total of 45 minutes for that to prove true.
After a sleepy two days of walkthroughs to open 2014 training camp, the Cowboys exploded into a riveting afternoon practice on Day 3, highlighted by an intense few exchanges between Morris Claiborne and Terrance Williams.
There has been no shortage of debate about Claiborne in recent months – namely, that 2014 is a crucial year for him to prove his value as the No. 6 overall pick in the 2012 draft. The young corner opened practice like he was well-aware of that fact, as he harassed Williams in some stingy man coverage during one-on-one reps.
“It just got a little bit competitive – he didn’t like the way I was touching him,” Claiborne said. “I don’t know what else I was supposed to do except let him run his route. It gets like that sometimes out here, but we’re still teammates, we’re still buddies.”
The sequence continued to escalate, as the pair continued to have words for each other after each rep. Claiborne even went as far as to demand another receiver go against him, calling for Dez Bryant to come across the field from the other side of the drill.
“I was caught up in the moment,” Claiborne said. “Me and Dez are usually going against each other, each and every snap, and he was working on the other side today – which I understand.”
For a moment, it looked like the first scuffle of training camp would come within the very first hour, as Williams made his unhappiness with Claiborne’s aggression known – from very close proximity. For his part, Williams agreed it was left on the practice field.
“Yeah. That’s still my friend. Football is football,” he said. “Whatever happens out here stays out here. He’s still my good friend. Nothing is going to change. I’m done with that.”
It made for some gripping, intense football – not to mention competitive, which is something Jason Witten said can only help a roster with so much youth.
“Any time you put pads on for the first time, you’re going to get tempers flaring and competitiveness coming out,” Witten said. “That’s good for your football team, especially ours. We need that. Coach Garrett said it Day 1, all positions are open. Let the best man win.
Quick Hits:
•Plenty of eyes were on Rolando McClain in his first full practice with the Cowboys. The plan was to ease him into the practice, and that appeared to be the case as he acclimated to the pace of practice. McClain went through the full array of position workouts, and he partook in the full-team portions of practice as a second-team linebacker.
•Not to pile more hype on the already-hyped offensive line, but the Cowboys’ starting five blockers shined during one-one-one pass rush drills. Neither DeMarcus Lawrence nor Jeremy Mincey could gain ground on Tyron Smith, and Doug Free was impressive against the likes of George Selvie and Caesar Rayford. Travis Frederick stonewalled every lineman who went against him, and the guards shined, as well. Henry Melton beat Zack Martin on the first rep of the drill, but Martin rebounded nicely to hold his own against everyone else. Mackenzy Bernadeau was also solid to give the starting line a solid grade.
•Tony Romo went through Saturday’s practice in full after sitting out on Friday. He went through his usual routine in individuals – however, he didn’t throw any passes during the Cowboys’ first team period. He returned to uncork some balls later in the practice, heaving one deep downfield to Bryant.
•Rookie defensive end Ben Gardner became the first injury issue of training camp when he left the field with a shoulder injury about halfway through practice. Claiborne also exited drills toward the tail end of the day, but he said it was simply cramping and felt fine.
View Gallery | 33 Photos
Notable Standouts:
•Davon Coleman – The undrafted rookie defensive tackle couldn’t be blocked when the team went to one-on-one individual drills. He gave the opposing backup interior linemen absolute fits with his quickness, and they could barely get their hands on him before he was upfield.
•Chris Boyd – Boyd made the first big play of camp, as minicamp standout corner Tyler Patmon was in good coverage on him down the left sideline but couldn’t break up the pass on a streak. Boyd extended and made the play. Unfortunately, later on Boyd was wide open on a double move that left his man in the dust, but he couldn’t hang on to the pass.
•Tyron Smith – There might not be a player who’s made as drastic an improvement from this point last year until now as Smith. DeMarcus Ware would give Smith fits at camp last year, and now there’s no one who can even try to get by the left tackle, who was perfect during individual drills.
Play of the Day:
Jermey Parnell had the dubious distinction of being victimized – worse than anyone else – during individual pass rush drills. The No. 3 tackle lined up opposite Tyrone Crawford, and nothing was the same after that. Crawford bull rushed Parnell from the outside and steamrolled him, knocking the big guy onto his back to the delight of the crowd.
Injury Report:
Left Practice:
DE Ben Gardner (shoulder)
Returned to Practice:
LB Rolando McClain
Missed Practice:
DE Anthony Spencer (knee)
OG Ronald Leary (hamstring)
DT Amobi Okoye (illness)
CB Brandon Carr (personal matter)
Upcoming Schedule
Sunday, July 27
2:00 p.m. (PDT) Coach Garrett press conference
3:45 p.m. (PDT) Practice
Monday, July 28
Players Day Off No Availability
Tuesday, July 29
10:30 a.m. (PDT) Walk-Thru
12:00 p.m. (PDT) Coach Garrett Press Conference
3:45 p.m. (PDT) Practice
L.T. Fan
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Yeah I don't agree with light practices because you are not prepared to play full tilt. I think you can take a couple days for everyone to get their legs under them but after that when you have he pads on you practice hard.
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Telling a player not to dive on a football in a padded live practice is just crazy. Yeah, they could get hurt. But it reinforces what should be a habit when a football hits the ground.
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I am fine with this...last thing we need is some scrub DL to pile on Smith and hurt him. All for getting after it, but in a smart way.
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If you don't teach these habits or inhibit them, then how do you expect it to happen in a game?
Sorry, this scared of injury crap hasn't happened because of aggressive full tilt practices. I would get it if it had.
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Yeah, I'll pass on our best player having a chance to get hurt in a fumble pile up with some UDFA trying to make a name for himself. I get the other side of the argument, but don't agree.
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"Dez, don't you go jumping to catch the ball... you could come down and twist your ankle if someone is under you."
It's a silly way to practice.
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If he got hurt in non-contact, chances are pretty damn good he would have gotten hurt anyway. So, what's the difference between him getting hurt in TC, or getting hurt in the first game? At least if he gets hurt early in TC or OTAs, they have more time to try to fill his spot.
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The problem is he got hurt in no contact drills that ramped up to contact drills. You can't say he would have probably been hurt anyways.
I'd take caution with injuries...much like a QB wearing a red jersey so they don't get hit...why not let the D hit the QBs too?
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QBs don't get hit nearly as often in games as the D and O lines. I say let them practice just like they are playing the games. Obviously, you don't players taking free shots at the QB, but that's about the only exception.
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Previewing Day 4 of Dallas Cowboys training camp practice in Oxnard: Will CB Morris Claiborne return with same fire?; How will QB Tony Romo respond?
By Brandon George / Reporter bgeorge@dallasnews.com
11:26 am on July 27, 2014
OXNARD, Calif. — After their first contact practice of training camp Saturday, the Dallas Cowboys are not taking part in a morning walk-through practice Sunday. And coach Jason Garrett’s daily news conference has been pushed back from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m. CT.
The Cowboys will have their afternoon practice starting at 5:45 p.m. CT. It’s another contact practice in pads, though there is no tackling (at least not on purpose).
The Cowboys are taking Monday off before resuming practice Tuesday.
Who to watch: It’ll be interesting to see how quarterback Tony Romo responds Sunday to his first contact practice in seven months. On Saturday, Romo didn’t throw much — especially in team drills — and he told coaches after the practice Saturday night that he wanted to practice Sunday at full-go. However, the Cowboys are taking it slow with Romo and playing it safe early in training camp so they don’t push him too much coming off of two back surgeries. If Romo has any soreness Sunday morning, it wouldn’t be a surprise to see him limited in practice. But the Cowboys’ plan is to let Romo guide them and have him tell them when he wants to take a day off or be limited.
What to watch for: Cornerback Morris Claiborne couldn’t finish team drills Saturday. He said he was having cramping issues. He said he expects to practice Sunday. Claiborne was fired up from the start of practice Saturday, getting into it with WR Terrance Williams. The two said the three run-ins are behind them, but they’ll be going at each other again in practice Sunday, so it’ll be interesting to see if anything lingers. It was refreshing to see that kind of competitive spirit and fire from Claiborne, who hasn’t set the world on fire since the Cowboys traded up to draft him sixth overall in 2012. Will he keep it up? … DT Henry Melton, the Cowboys’ top free agent addition of the offseason, didn’t participate in team drills Saturday. He’s coming back from ACL surgery, but the Cowboys had said he’d be full-go for training camp. It’ll be interesting to see when he gets into team drills to find out exactly where he is in his recovery. … DT Davon Coleman had an active first contact practice Saturday, often wreaking havoc at the line of scrimmage, and I’ll be watching to see if he can do it again.
By Brandon George / Reporter bgeorge@dallasnews.com
11:26 am on July 27, 2014
OXNARD, Calif. — After their first contact practice of training camp Saturday, the Dallas Cowboys are not taking part in a morning walk-through practice Sunday. And coach Jason Garrett’s daily news conference has been pushed back from 2 p.m. to 4 p.m. CT.
The Cowboys will have their afternoon practice starting at 5:45 p.m. CT. It’s another contact practice in pads, though there is no tackling (at least not on purpose).
The Cowboys are taking Monday off before resuming practice Tuesday.
Who to watch: It’ll be interesting to see how quarterback Tony Romo responds Sunday to his first contact practice in seven months. On Saturday, Romo didn’t throw much — especially in team drills — and he told coaches after the practice Saturday night that he wanted to practice Sunday at full-go. However, the Cowboys are taking it slow with Romo and playing it safe early in training camp so they don’t push him too much coming off of two back surgeries. If Romo has any soreness Sunday morning, it wouldn’t be a surprise to see him limited in practice. But the Cowboys’ plan is to let Romo guide them and have him tell them when he wants to take a day off or be limited.
What to watch for: Cornerback Morris Claiborne couldn’t finish team drills Saturday. He said he was having cramping issues. He said he expects to practice Sunday. Claiborne was fired up from the start of practice Saturday, getting into it with WR Terrance Williams. The two said the three run-ins are behind them, but they’ll be going at each other again in practice Sunday, so it’ll be interesting to see if anything lingers. It was refreshing to see that kind of competitive spirit and fire from Claiborne, who hasn’t set the world on fire since the Cowboys traded up to draft him sixth overall in 2012. Will he keep it up? … DT Henry Melton, the Cowboys’ top free agent addition of the offseason, didn’t participate in team drills Saturday. He’s coming back from ACL surgery, but the Cowboys had said he’d be full-go for training camp. It’ll be interesting to see when he gets into team drills to find out exactly where he is in his recovery. … DT Davon Coleman had an active first contact practice Saturday, often wreaking havoc at the line of scrimmage, and I’ll be watching to see if he can do it again.