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Irving Cowboy

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From the Wisconsin Examiner:


A Democratic legislator was assassinated; right-wing influencers coughed out disinformation
J. PATRICK COOLICAN
JUNE 14, 2025 6:08 PM

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Just hours after Minnesotans learned that Democratic House leader Melissa Hortman had been assassinated, right-wing influencer Collin Rugg, who has 1.8 million followers on X, posted a report that hinted that she’d been killed because of a recent vote on ending undocumented adults’ ability to enroll in MinnesotaCare, a subsidized health insurance for the working poor.

Mike Cernovich, another right-wing influencer who has 1.4 million followers on X, took Rugg’s post and amped it up, but in the “just asking questions” style of many conspiracy theories:
“Did Tim Walz have her executed to send a message?”

They were deeply ignorant about the MinnesotaCare issue.

Walz and Hortman — who was instrumental in passing legislation allowing undocumented people to sign up for MinnesotaCare as speaker of the House in 2023 — negotiated a compromise with Republicans in the Minnesota Legislature to end eligibility for adults, but keep it for children. They did so to win necessary Republican support in the 67-67 House to pass a state budget. Without it, state government would have shut down on July 1.

Both Hortman and Walz signed the compromise agreement in mid-May. This week, Hortman spoke tearfully about how difficult the vote was for her, but she was bound to vote yes on the issue because of the prior agreement.

Rugg and Cernovich’s posts were shared widely and just the start of the disinformation.

Once law enforcement sources began revealing a suspect, right-wing influencers ran with an insignificant detail: That Vance Luther Boelter was a “Walz appointee.”

Like many states, but even more so here, Minnesota is home to hundreds of nonpartisan and bipartisan boards and commissions, which are composed of thousands of people who typically win the appointment by simply volunteering. There are currently 342 open positions on Minnesota boards and commissions. Boelter was appointed to the Workforce Development Council by Walz’s predecessor Gov. Mark Dayton and reappointed by Walz.

It was the equivalent of calling a Sunday school volunteer an “appointee of the bishop.”

No matter, the Murdoch media machine, specifically the New York Post, had their headline: “Former appointee of Tim Walz sought….”

Cernovich had his greasy foil hot dog wrapper and began constructing a hat:
“The Vice President candidate for the Democrat party is directly connected to a domestic terrorist, that is confirmed, the only question is whether Tim Walz himself ordered the political hit against a rival who voted against Walz’s plan to give free healthcare to illegals.”

Walz had no such plan. He had signed an agreement to end eligibility for undocumented adults.

Joey Mannarino, who has more than 600,000 followers on X, was more crass:
“Rumor has it she was preparing to switch parties. The Democrats are VIOLENT SCUM.”

It was a ridiculous “rumor.” One of the last photos of Hortman alive was an image of her at the Democratic-Farmer-Labor’s big annual fundraising event, the Humphrey-Mondale dinner, which took place just hours before her assassination.

No matter, Cernovich wanted his new friends in federal law enforcement to act:
“The FBI must take Tim Walz into custody immediately.”

Finally, fresh off his humiliating defeat at the hands of President Donald Trump, world’s richest man Elon Musk quote-tweeted someone again falsely alleging Hortman was killed by “the left” and added:
“The far left is murderously violent.”

The suspect’s “hit list,” according to an official who has seen the list, comprised Minnesotans who have been outspoken in favor of abortion rights. CNN reported that it also included several abortion clinics, which doesn’t sound like the work of “the left.”

Right-wing influencers marred Hortman’s death and smeared Walz on a pile of lies.

In a different, saner world, they would be humiliated and slink away. But the smart money is that during the next moment of national crisis and mourning, they will again lie for profit.
 

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Assholes from both sides celebrated it. For you to insinuate that only liberals celebrated is ridiculously false.
What would you say were the percentages there, Irv?

Also, it looks like I said, "Many on the left celebrated it." Can you point out where I said not a single person on the right did?

I still say it was far more celebrated on the left, though.
 

Irving Cowboy

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What would you say were the percentages there, Irv?

Also, it looks like I said, "Many on the left celebrated it." Can you point out where I said not a single person on the right did?

I still say it was far more celebrated on the left, though.
A more accurate statement would have been that many idiots celebrated it. If you want to figure out the percentages to make yourself feel better, knock yourself out
 

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Because the right never dispenses mis/disinformation, correct?

Never said that.

They're bullshit terms. You can be wrong, you can be lying.

But using terms like mis/dis/mal information is an attempt to control narratives and a poor attempt to appeal to authority when they aren't one.

Same with 'fact checking'.
 

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Maybe it's because, with a blue background, if you put the blue last it wouldn't even show. It would just look like a red and white stripe.

I doubt that's it, though. I'm sure it's RuSSiAn AsSetT!
 

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Anyone remember this?

I wonder how one goes from wondering if Trump is Hitler to sucking his cock on demand?

Oh yeah, he's a demented politician who realized his only way to advance in the party was to become a cuck.
 

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Anyone remember this?

I wonder how one goes from wondering if Trump is Hitler to sucking his cock on demand?

Oh yeah, he's a demented politician who realized his only way to advance in the party was to become a cuck.
How long ago was that? About a decade ago, right?

Plenty of people were wary of Trump at first. I was, too. (Although "Hitler" was always an idiotic take.)

Maybe the answer is that even smart people can say stupid things. But unless they're incredibly stubborn, they can change their opinions when the evidence warrants it.
 

Bipo

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You guys honestly not outraged by that pathetic parade where a soldier is carrying a drone in the air? :lol
 

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You guys honestly not outraged by that pathetic parade where a soldier is carrying a drone in the air? :lol

Outraged? Is that really the word you would use? I mean who gives af?
 

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I dunno what Walmart this is, but Jesus fuckin’ Christ.

 
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